Disappointed with Corbon

[Don Dick]

I e-mailed Corbon to ask about two boxes of 500 S&W ammo I wanted to see if they were loaded with pistol primers or rifle.

 After sending the wrong info off the box I was ask to send the lot numbers off the front flaps.  Brass for the 500 is expensive and I wanted to reload.

 The response I got was from there sales manager.  He said I should be able to tell the difference in primers and went on to talk about how Corbon only sells high performance ammo.  Like I did not know that.  If I had not know that would I have paid 33.00 dollars each for two boxs of ammo with 12 rounds to a box.

 The lot numbers were sent and needless to say no response.  I just wish someone else made powerball and I would not have to deal with them again.

[Mikey]

Don - it's interesting you say that.  I've had conversations with Cor-Bon staff before and it always justs sounds like PR-BS to me.  They have some slap-happy guy on the PR line who's line of BS sounds so smooth that he must have practiced it in his sleep - knowing he would have to answer that kind of question.  Go figure.

And for the price, not again.  I was at a show a couple of weeks ago and came across a table selling their stuff and bought a 25 round box of their 400 Cor-Bon.  Now, I developed a 40 caliber pistol cartridge in the late 70s that was based on a necked down 45 acp case.  When I compared theirs to mine I could see the obvious differences - theirs will seat too low in my chambers and they produced a large pistol cartridge case with a small pistol primer.  All in all I haven't heard much good about their stuff.  I was given a 25 round box of their 165 gn 45 ACPs, which showed serious pressure signs when fired and didn't give me the accuracy I felt an expensive product like that should have.

I've been rollin' my own for a loooong time and I don't see anything in their line-up I would waste my money on again.  Mikey.

[Questor]

Bad representation aside, I've wondered how they can produce loads with the velocity that they claim. Some of them are quite fast compared to comparable loads. Do they really have those high velocities?

[jamie]

I have to say that I purchased some 165's for my Commander.  They averaged 18fps slower than what the box advertised.  Keep in mind they test in a 5" barrel and I was using a 4".

[Mikey]

Questor - the Cor-Bon people will tell you right up front that you cannot duplicate their loads with cannister powders, and that is pure bullschmidt.  They will tell you that they have special combinations of powders developed specifically for their use, and that is also pure bullschmidt.  They use nothing more than commercially made powders and, I believe use rifle primers in place of the pistol primers.  That may assist is gaining about another 100'/sec but does little for accuracy or pressure.  

I compared two similar cases - one of their 400 Cor-Bons and the design they took it from, my own 40 Michaels.  Other than having a shorter body and longer neck, which prevents the powder capacity I realized in my case design, they also use a small primer but even in properly chambered barrels, those rounds show high pressures.  When looking at their 45 ACP loads, you can do just as well if not better with cannister powders and loading tables from the older Lyman manuals.  

I wouldn't waste my $ on Cor-Bon ammo, and have asked friends not to purchase any for gifts for me.  I'd rather roll my own.  Well, actually, I do (LOL).  Mikey.

[BamBams]

Is Cor-Bon required to publish an MSDS sheet for their ammo?  HINT HINT!

[Mikey]

(1) - What's an MSDS Sheet?  and (2) I don't think anyone is required to publish proprietary data.  Just my thoughts though.  Mikey.

[John Traveler]

A Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) is required when the use, transport, or storage of that material (usually of a chemical nature or a manufactured product such as solvents or adhesives).

The are supplied to interstate shippers and are a federal requirement for products that have the potential for harm to humans or the environment.

[jamie]

You won't usually see an MSDS from a company for a comercial product unless you ask for it.  If you work for a big company the employed 2000 people and they purchased some spray paint then you better make sure you an MSDS.  They tell you all kinds of info about the chemical make up of the product and it's hazards, any personal protective equipment you need.  And no an MSDS from Krylon for gloss black paint won't work for flat black.  It's a pain in the butt.