Author Topic: Drinks are on me!! They caught the evil.... (Read 1156 times)

Holiday · « **on:** December 14, 2003, 11:59:06 AM »

....I can't say what he is here, but you catch my drift. Sadam is in the pokey!

Cowboy Bush rides again!! YEEEEHHAAAAAAWWW!! My hat is off to the boys and girls that put on the Uniform every day!! God Bless and Good Luck!!

Lady Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:17:53 PM »

Holiday, That is great news. Since you are buying this round I will get the next one.

Lady GB

Big Hext Finnigan · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2003, 06:48:16 PM »

Yessiree, that is good news. and worth a shot of the good stuff.

Barkeep, give me a bottle of your best! The cost is no object! (after all, Holiday will be paying for it, not me. :wink: )

williamlayton · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2003, 01:13:20 AM »

i'm drinkin wha hext is gettin, straight up if'n ya please. Keep on bringin, well, er, long as tha boys is buyin. I'm a little short on cash rat now.
I'm happy to see that tha scoundrel is in irons also. My hope is this will bring to conclusion this thing we got goin on over there.
blessings

ihuntbucks · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2003, 05:32:24 PM »

I can drink em as long as you can pour em. God Bless America!! Rick

daddywpb · « **Reply #5 on:** December 26, 2003, 01:16:32 PM »

Here, here! Strap him to a pole, and let the people have at him. Bless the troops.

crossbow · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2004, 09:18:35 AM »

and what did he do to you exactly,or did you ever ask youself that question.He done absolutely nothing to you,so what are celebrating.You should be fuming that the lives of your troops are being thrown away for nothing but lies.

Holiday · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2004, 10:00:44 AM »

Obviously you have never served your country. As a veteran and a friend to many other soldiers I have to say that attitudes such as yours are really sad. If this war was as evil and useless as you feel it is, how come the SOLDIERS, the very men and women whom you say lives have been wasted, feel we are doing the right thing?

What did he do to me, personally? Nothing. But he murdered thousands, if not millions, of people. He violated World law, and will be punished. By your argument, if a man kills someone else, but doesn't harm me, then I shouldn't support his punishment.

However, you are entitled to your opinion. This has the appearance of a troll. If it remains civil, I will allow it. If it degenerates to a fight, I will delete it. Be advised, though. This is the only warning I will give.

crossbow · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2004, 11:37:31 AM »

I dont see your argument that the soldiers think its right,soldiers always believe they are on the right side.As for the argument that he had blood on his hands,Well so have half the leaders on earth,so why only go after the ones that have not got the military means to defend themselves.For instance the chinese goverment has blood on its hands and has defied the world over Tibet.Still no volunteers for an invasion of china.No my objection is people gloating over a cheap victory.And the fact that the object of their hate is a leader who never threatened or harmed America in any way.In fact another person celebrating that day was probably Bin Laden who hated Hussein because of his secular rule.

Holiday · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2004, 01:37:40 PM »

I'm not arguing. You have a private messege. To keep this from getting out of hand, I'm locking this post.

Holiday · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2004, 01:01:04 PM »

I am reconsidering the lock out. I will move this to the political forum. You want it, have at it.

myronman3 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2004, 06:29:07 PM »

well this is old news but i must ask that if hitler did nothing to me personally then i shouldnt care when an evil person who caused so much pain and suffering is defeated? come on! this guy sprayed chemicals on families just because. screw him and every like him. bin ladin hopefully is the next in line of a long line of wackos.

williamlayton · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2004, 03:19:02 AM »

Was Saadam evil? Yes
Am I glad he is out of power? Yes
Has it put an end to the extremist (extremist-that would be a prism to look thru) in the country? No
Will we be able to put an end to them? This is a culture extremely foreign to our thought pattern and, based on history, we will be hard pressed to change them.
Was the WAR well thought out before the invasion? Based on many accounts-No
Our boys are a good fighting group of lads, they walk tall. The military has done a very good job. The military did a good job in Viet Nam, the boys there were top-notch, as good as you will find.
The military does not set policy, and many, including myownself, agree this is a good thing. Why, because i don't trust them? No that is not the reason! Why? They are too close too the forrest to see the trees, they have an agenda that perhaps is clouded by war and fighting only to win a war without the benefit of a better picture.
Could we have won in Viet Nam? This, in my opinion, is the same question we are discussing here. AND my answer is, Well you can win a war and loose the objective. I don't think we could have won in Viet Nam and I don't believe we will accomplish anything here.
Why did we do it? Geeeze folks I don't know. I have to believe there were better avenues at our disposal.
That said God bless our troops and God speed.
Soapbox is clear.
Blessing

myronman3 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2004, 05:44:40 PM »

better to have our soldiers taking it to them instead of the other way around. i agree we aint ever going to change these folks; they aint happy unless they are killing or dying. i am more than happy to help them on their way to allah. and though some valid points on nam, i am sure our guys could have whipped them right shortly if gutless pricks back here would have not tied soldiers hands behind their backs and then sent them off to fight. when you fight, fight unconditionally and brutally. show compassion later. trying to "fight nice" is a load of crap. september 11th (as tragic as it was) will pale in comparison to the attacks to come in the future if these scumbags are not destroyed. the american public already has it in their heads it cant happen again. it is just a lack of intestinal fortitude; plain and simple. too bad that our country's best die in wars instead of the cowards that stay home and live. these folks will lead to our undoing unless dealt with.

williamlayton · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2004, 01:48:17 AM »

Point 1) True about taking it to them. The only concern in this quarter is are we taking it to them or are we just taking it to somebody. I guess what my main concern is who are we talking about. there are certainly many countries involved in this terrorism thing but I think we are talking about the terrorist.
Point 2) Why do you apply this to all concerning the idea "they" are not happy unless they are killing. There are certain elements who adhere to a far right view but certainly not "all".
Point 3) Concerning Viet Nam. Well if this is correct, consider the year, it was before the end of the cold war, we would have eventually have had to fight and conquer China and the USSR. I think we would have been viewed as the invaders and lost much world support. Please note and extend to them the same idea of fighting nice.
Point 4) Of course it will happen again, if not from this particular group from some other extremist-remember Ok. City. We have moved ourselves from a nation to a world protectorate and buy default have opened ourselves to become the enemy, the head of the snake which needs to be crushed.
Point 5) I don't believe you mean that, I am thinking you are reacting to those which disagree with you. It took a lot of guts to stand up and say enough is enough in Viet Nam and take a stand. I cannot believe that an opposing stand means someone is afraid or gutless. GWB took what you would call a gutless stand when he got himself into the NG, if you maintain that point.
This whole discussion needs to be rethought at the highest levels and these folks need to be absolutely and perfectly correct in the decisions they make.
Blessings

myronman3 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2004, 03:13:25 AM »

i should first say that i respect you william.

"True about taking it to them. The only concern in this quarter is are we taking it to them or are we just taking it to somebody. I guess what my main concern is who are we talking about. there are certainly many countries involved in this terrorism thing but I think we are talking about the terrorist."
when i say take it to them, i mean "them" as in anyone that would aid or assist those that would do us harm(and of course those that would do us harm). and just so we are clear, taking it to saddam (for many reasons) was a great idea. whip the hell out of someone who has shown himself to be a threat, and has threatened us without reservation just to show the rest of the world what WILL happen when they dont behave. the only question the world should have is " who is next?" answer: whoever threatens us.
"Why do you apply this to all concerning the idea "they" are not happy unless they are killing. There are certain elements who adhere to a far right view but certainly not "all". " - we all know that the extremists wont quit for nothing. fyi, i am refering to the extremists and ANYONE who helps them(kill them).
"Concerning Viet Nam. Well if this is correct, consider the year, it was before the end of the cold war, we would have eventually have had to fight and conquer China and the USSR. I think we would have been viewed as the invaders and lost much world support. Please note and extend to them the same idea of fighting nice. " - you cant say that for sure, NO ONE could know how things might have played out for certain. but for the buearacrats to send our boys out to fight and not back them 1000% with the full force and capability we have is unforgivable. and i dont care about making the rest of the world "like" us, because they never will no matter what we do (except maybe perish).
"Of course it will happen again, if not from this particular group from some other extremist-remember Ok. City. We have moved ourselves from a nation to a world protectorate and buy default have opened ourselves to become the enemy, the head of the snake which needs to be crushed. " - so by that line of thought, we should sit back and take it because that is the price of doing business? bull$%^. i dont believe for a second you could mean that.
" I don't believe you mean that, I am thinking you are reacting to those which disagree with you. It took a lot of guts to stand up and say enough is enough in Viet Nam and take a stand. I cannot believe that an opposing stand means someone is afraid or gutless. " i think there is a right way and a wrong way to go about things. running to foriegn countries to avoid any kind of service is wrong. going to war and then coming back and stabbing your "band of brothers" in the back in front of congress is wrong. going into a unit which probably wont get deployed to the front line is STILL an apropriate HONORABLE way to serve your country without selling it out. there are so many ways one can serve our country and not all of them involve front line combat. and fyi, everyone i know who dodged the draft was and still is a gutless coward. try to dress it anyway they want, it still doesnt change that.

williamlayton · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2004, 01:58:55 PM »

Well replied, we just see things differently, as thru a glass darkly.
The only thought to leave with: I think we should identify who we are trying to eliminate, specifically, and make good attempts at those targets.
I have a real concern when using a broad brush and involving persons innocently. Not only does it lead to crystallization of a larger mass, rarely, as we have seen, does it provide us with the results we desire.
I will reply to a issue you will probable bring up. I do understand that the innocent are often caught in the middle, I would hope we would prevent this as much as possible. I believe we can.
Blessings

myronman3 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:09:52 PM »

the problem with a message board like this is a guy tends to state the core of what he or she is trying to say. going into detail involves alot more typing and i think most of us are better at other things. but because of this detail suffers and it is easy for things to get cloudly. sometimes things have to be defined or explained with more detail. if nothing else; i KNOW you are a guy that puts some thought into what you think. the world would be far better off if everyone did the same, even if they dont agree with my views. i enjoyed talking with you!