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Offline simonkenton

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« on: February 26, 2004, 12:54:31 PM »
I have the TC Hawken in .50
I am going to get a Green Mountain round ball barrel. I like the idea of shooting a big ball, so I want the .54
Are these accurate? I notice that when TC makes a .54 they use the one inch barrel, but they use the 15/16 barrel for the .50
Is the Green Mountain barrel thick enough?
Probably a dumb ass question, I know Green Mountain makes good stuff.
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2004, 03:09:50 PM »
sk,

 IMO green mountain has one of the bets replacement barrels. Just put a 50 on my buddys T/C  1in 70 twist. It turns out to be a match grade barrel. there was no need to lap the barrel,this thing loads SMOOTH.shoots less than 3/4' groups @ 50 with t/c iron sights,(5 shots)Now I am 44 have to use reading glasses,when shooting,I do not wear them,if I do ,I can see my sights but not the target,If I dont it is reversed.I know the gun shoots better than me.Scoped, I believe this barrel capable of 5 shots under 3/4' @ 100.

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2004, 03:15:08 PM »
My Lyman GPR has a 15/16" barrel in .54 so I would think that the GM would certainly be strong enough.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2004, 04:59:13 PM »
Unless requested by the customer that I use a specific barrel, I will use a Green Mountain when building a new rifle...  They are top of the line...  A one inch x .54 GMB should have no problem in handling heavey hunting charges within reason that you are getting complete burn of powder in barrel...  See manufacture's recomendations...

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2004, 08:27:17 AM »
whitecloud I have the same problem when it come to seeing the sights,like yourself I need reading glasses to read,distance is no problem.
I know it not traditional but I did replace the stock sight on my GPR with a set of fiber optic sight,man what a difference in shooting when it come to a clean crisp sight picture..
I was thinking in buying a set of t/c peep sight that mounts to the tang and leave a fiber optic front sight,remove the peep for low lighting conditions when hunting.

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2004, 08:59:48 AM »
4x weaver with a tip off mount will do the same thing.

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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2004, 09:46:02 AM »
When I get my GM barrel I will put fiber optic sights on it.
Damn, I used to be a good shot with the old iron sights, but the eyes ain't what they used to be.
The rear peep and the front fiber optic sounds very good. Problem for me is, I just don't like peep sights.
But I was looking through some TC fiber optics at the gun store the other day, they were great.
I am going to get that nice GM round ball barrel and get some big ole .54 round balls and will do some serious hog hunting this fall.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2004, 10:47:41 AM »
If I was gonna put a "peep" on one'a my traditional rifleguns,.... it would be one thet I made my ownself (jest like they did it, in tha "old days"!),.... and 'cause I ain't got "no use" fer plastic,.. I reckon I'd use a "silver" front sight for "low-light situations"!!

Ther is no such thing as a "traditional fiber-optic sight"!! :eek:  :D

Green Mountain Barrels "shoot center"!! :agree:
"Modern inline" is an old mountain-man phrase,... fer "butt-ugly club"!!

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2004, 11:01:55 AM »
I have a silver front sight on the rifle now. I put that on twenty years ago. I had noticed, I had a black rear sight, a black front sight, and a dark deer in the woods. There was no contrast. So I ground off the front sight and soldered a piece of silver on instead. This worked great in all situations, and really helped when it was getting dark.
But, even with the silver sight, now I am not accurate enough at 70 yards.
So, the choice is, get fiber optics, or give it up.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2004, 11:28:15 AM »
Simonkenton,..... My eye-sight ain't as good as it used'ta be neither,.... and if I was to try shoot'n with plastic fiber-optic sights WITHOUT my glasses,.... I figger the "plastic sights" would be jest as fuzzy as the "iron sights".

Sometimes a feller has to adjust his "hunt'n style" to stay within his "ability"!! (I had to start hunt'n LATER in tha morn'n, and quit hunt'n EARLIER towards even'n,.... until I started use'n a smoothbore!!)

I can still see the front-sight good on my Trade Gun, even in low light!! (and, I ain't got no rear-sight to try'n "focus" on,.... so, I'm use'n the smoothbore more fer hunt'n each season!) :D
"Modern inline" is an old mountain-man phrase,... fer "butt-ugly club"!!

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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2004, 11:57:43 AM »
Right now my TC barrel is screwed up, so I can't even give the iron sights a good try.
I tell you what, when I get that accurate barrel in, I will give it a try, using my old silver front sight. The thing is, in the last few years I have gotten some expensive trifocal glasses that seem pretty good when looking down iron sights. With reading glasses, good deal on the sights, but can't see the deer.
So I will try the new barrel without the fiber optics and see how it goes.
Without the glasses, forget it, I may as well crawl around on the forest floor and grab the first creature I feel and stab it to death.
If I can consistently make that 70 yard shot w/o fiber optics, then I will leave them in the catalog.
I am interested in a fowler. I was in Jim Chambers shop last week, man o man rollingb you would die if you went into his showroom. He has 20 of his rifles that have been built up, what a beautiful thing to see. He has rows of his beautiful flintlocks in different stages of construction. It feels like 1765 in there let me tell you.  He had two types of fowlers, plus he has the original English fowler from 1766 that one of his fowlers is copied from.  What the hell, leave the rear sight off and you are ready to go.
After I spend the $150 on the Green Mountain I will save $800 and get one of Chambers kits.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2004, 12:15:59 PM »
Sounds like yore "far-sighted" jest like me!!

I got my first set'a glasses 'bout 6 years ago (bi-focals), then 3 years ago I got tri-focals and didn't like'em fer shoot'n,... so,.... now I'm back to bi-focals agin. (it's hell'ta be blind!! 8) )

Wow!!.. I can only "imagine" be'n in Jim's shop,..... he'd probly haf'ta call the athouritys to have me "evacuated from tha premisses" so he could close-up shop at tha end of the day!! :)  :D  8)
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2004, 12:29:06 PM »
Jim has a big two story house, sets up on a hill. It has a big basement, and the entire basement is a gun shop.
When I went in the door Jim was working on the right with another guy, they were heat treating a frizzen. His wife showed me around.
About half of the shop is the lock manufacturing area.
Then you have the stock room. He has about a hundred stocks lined up against the walls, beautiful of course.
In the back is the gun room. It is actually a vault, like for a bank. It has a huge heavy sliding door with a combination. This is in the part of the basement that is completely underground, so this vault would be quite fireproof.
He had his one pistol on a shelf and the rest long guns. Really, I felt like this man was a saint, or an angel, to be able to create something so beautiful from so long ago. I was reluctant to pick up a gun, but she urged me to pick one up. Then Jim came in and handed me that 250 year old fowler. It was made in England. He had me cock it and pull the trigger, that was really amazing. I was just about speechless.
One thing that stood out, was how well these long rifles handle. With the swamped barrel, even a 42 inch and longer barrel handled light as a feather. Also the slender wrists. The more expensive guns had beautiful inlay work, but you know, I could take or leave that, I just love the rifle.
Also lots of his guns have the sliding wooden patchbox. I had never seen that before, it is pretty cool. Looks very solid.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2004, 08:27:55 PM »
Where is his shop located? Is it near ATL? Any info would be appreciated.

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2004, 05:23:16 AM »
I have noticed that if you are of the age that bifocals are needed the rear sight on the fiber optics are blurry at least they were for me. I prefer a peep sight and plan on making one that is a long metal one that fits into the rear dovtail and will use a  rear elevator like some of the buckhorn sights used. I have a part of a peep sight that is adjustable for windage and will solder on to a flat peice of metal for my sight and have a dovetail peice of metal all ready for the other end. cut and file a groove for the elevator and I should be all set. I had a peep on it and it just did not look old enough so that is why I decided to make my own in the style of the long sights of the old days. Jim
Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it.

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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2004, 06:01:45 AM »
Quote from: mikej
Where is his shop located? Is it near ATL? Any info would be appreciated.


His shop is in Candler NC just west of Asheville. You have to call for an appointment.
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