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« on: April 19, 2004, 02:17:29 PM »
I purchased a 10in.  45/410 barrel for my contenders.
I have 3 frames the barrel would only open on one frame the
other frames I had to take the pin out to get the barrel off.
I really thought the barrels were pretty much interchangeable.
is there a fix for the barrels to fit the different frames?
the one that worked had a rear pin on the trigger guard/opener
what is the easy open frame that I hear people talk about?
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 07:19:21 AM »
What is the serial number on your frames?  That can tell you what kind of frame it is.  You should contact Thompson Center with this question.  It may be a barrel fix rather than the frame.

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 04:26:07 PM »
If there is a roll pin directly over the trigger, than it is an easy open frame. They came that way from the factory starting with SN 195,000 but some of the older ones have been modified. Some of the earliest barrels had a flat lug, later barrels have a stepped lug. I've heard (but have never seen it) that some of the earliest frames can only use the flat lug barrels and vice versa. T/C will fix whatever you have to make it work with all barrels. If all your frames are easy-open and your barrel has a stepped lug, than you probably have a bolt height problem. T/C will fix it, but you can do it yourself if you can work a file. If you have a non easy open frame and slightly high lugs, you may not be able to exert enough force on the trigger guard to push the split bolts on a newer barrel. Also if the bolts a just a little low and engage too far and the part of the frame they lock up on is sharp, it can dig into the bolts as you try to disengage them. If it were my stuff, I'd take the trigger group out of the frame and check the ramp and the depth the bolts engage, then reinstall the trigger group to remove the barrel. Alternatively you can ink the tops of the bolts and try it that way, but removing the trigger group is pretty easy if you have the exploded view. (if you need it I can e-mail it to you).
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 11:21:10 AM »
The serial NO. For frame that worked is 3122xx
IT  was opening only halfway but the Pachmayer Forend
was dragging a little but it does work.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 03:40:15 PM »
Okay, what about the frames that didn't work? I had a couple broken bolts on one barrel that kept it from opening, but that was a single incident. once I got it open pieces fell off so it was obvious.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 03:05:59 AM »
The seriial no. for the frames that would not open were
1424xx       1529xx.
I could not squeeze the opener hard enough to open the frames
I had to take the frame pin out to open/remove the barrels.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2004, 08:49:45 AM »
By the numbers you've listed the two that didn't work were built as non-easy open frames. If they haven't been converted to easy open, that could be the problem. There is a device out there that attaches to the trigger guard to give you more leverage to open the frame (EZ Squeeze).  That may not "fix" the problem, but it may let you open the frames. Having the frames converted would fix it. I'd still check the bolt engagement, you may find it is significantly different on the older frames.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 09:16:55 AM »
Thanks for all the help
I think I WILL CHECK with TC possible for a conversion to easy open
frames
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