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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2004, 08:27:57 PM »
NYH,

You really ought to go back and read your other posts before you make statements that aren't accurate.

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I didn't say anything about Clinton.


From an earlier post:

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Yes Clinton could of and should of done more to try to get Osams. Don,t blame Iraq on Clinton. That was Daddy bush's fault for not finishing it in 1990/91.


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Why didn't the UN go after Iraq. Oh they did the used us to do their dirty work.


They didn't go after Iraq because that body is made up of a bunch of leftist countries whose attitude is reflected in your comments. As for our doing their dirty work, you obviously didn't pay all that much attention to what went on in the UN. Our opposition there did everything they could to prevent us from doing anything about Iraq. If they wanted us to do their dirty work, they would have given us their blessing. I think you're just a little bit confused.

I like the way you selectively quoted my comments about your complaining about the current administrations finishing the job that Bush SR. didn't finish. You complain that Bush Sr. dropped the ball, but when his son goes in to pick up that same ball and run with it, you complain about that too. I reiterate. If Bush SR. had gone in after Saddam, you would have complained about it then as well. Now you complain about the fact that he didn't.

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First off the only reason we went to Iraq in 1990/91 is because the U.S, didn't want Iraq to have control of Kuwait's oil fields. Second why would you let someone stay in power after you just used "MILITARY FORCE" to remove them from another country?


There's something wrong with us not wanting control of Kuwait's oil fields in the hands of a genocidal maniac? Kuwait just happened to be an ally, and we felt obligated to come to her aid. I think you've got oil on the brain. And, again, what's your problem? George W is now doing what you seem to think should have been done back then.

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The only way they could be used against "US" is if we were there. Iraq didn't have the capabilities to hit anything more them a few hundred miles away.


So, what you're saying is Saddam couldn't have sold or given WMDs to a terrorist group to smuggle into this country for use against us. Does the word "anthrax" ring any bells?

Smuggling all sorts of toxins into this country would be child's play for a determined enemy. It could come in in a toothpaste tube or any number of inocuous looking containers. Clearly, one does not need ICBMs to deliver such weapons. All one would need would be an airline ticket. I think Saddam could have afforded one or two of those.

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I'm not using any DNC talking points! Its the truth. I make my own opinion, unlike some of you that believe everything a certain political party or religion says. I never said said we were "looting" anyone, so please don't put words in my month. And yes gasoline is at an all time high. I believe it was one of "W's" 2000 campaign issues, he was gonna take care of that. He did a good job!


Of course you're not. It's just a mere coincidence that all the lefty demoncraps are echoing the same mantra. Speaking of putting words in someone's mouth, I never said I believe everything that any political party tells me. Nice try, but no cigar on trying to turn the tables on me. And, my religious beliefs haven't anything to do with this discussion, so kindly refrain from bringing them up.

You may not have used the word "looting," but it adequately describes what we'd be doing with regard to the region's oilfields if, in fact, we had only gone there for the oil as you say.

Excuse me, but W never made any campaign promises about fuel prices. In fact, the economic problems he inherited were created by your boy, BJ. And, thanks to W's policies, we're beginning to pull out of the Clinton recession.

I'm glad to see that you agree that he did a good job.

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So I guess that means were gonna keep being attacked then. We don't use overwhelming force, are you kidding. We p*ssy foot around. Most so called experts say that Iraq was a fifth rate army if that. Were still there a year later. Iraq is probably woste off now then when we invaded.


Are you deliberately misconstruing what I said? From what do you conclude that we're pussy footing around in Iraq? I point out that our willingness to use overwhelming force would keep other countries, or forces, from attacking us. And, they haven't. Yes, we're still in Iraq, helping to allow a democratic government to be formed. We spent many years in Germany and Japan after those countries were defeated. I doubt that we'll spend near as much time in Iraq.

And another lib talking point is in the air. Iraq is worse off now, with a genocidal/homicidal maniac and his two equally disposed sons removed from power than it was when they still controlled the country and tortured, raped and killed hundreds of thousands of people? You think you'd rather live in a country where you could be executed for criticizing the top guy? You think you'd have lasted a day in Iraq under Saddam if you'd said anything about him like what you say about Bush?

I really get a kick out of how you simply will not give George W credit for anything. You assert, if I read you correctly, thst Libya's fessing up was because Reagan bombed that country years ago. Boy, it sure takes Qaddafi a long time to make up his mind doesn't it? I guess it's only a coincidence that it occurred hard on the heels of our actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2004, 02:24:23 AM »
:agree:  , Fla Brian, Great!!!...  Keep up the good work and keep up the good fight.  Myself and most if not all of the rest of us are with you on the side of "Right", not the other side, the "Left" side of half-truths, mis-truths, mis-statements and denials of the truth that was indicative of our former administration....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2004, 05:25:03 AM »
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:agree:  , Fla Brian, Great!!!...  Keep up the good work and keep up the good fight.  Myself and most if not all of the rest of us are with you on the side of "Right", not the other side, the "Left" side of half-truths, mis-truths, mis-statements and denials of the truth that was indicative of our former administration....<><.... :grin:


 :D Thank you very much , sir, I try to do what I can. But, sometimes it's like

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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2004, 09:56:19 AM »
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NYH,

You really ought to go back and read your other posts before you make statements that aren't accurate.

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I didn't say anything about Clinton.


From an earlier post:

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Yes Clinton could of and should of done more to try to get Osams. Don,t blame Iraq on Clinton. That was Daddy bush's fault for not finishing it in 1990/91.


I didn't blame Clinton for not doing anything in Iraq. I said he dropped the ball with Al-Quida. Thats the same thing I said to you last night.

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Why didn't the UN go after Iraq. Oh they did the used us to do their dirty work.


They didn't go after Iraq because that body is made up of a bunch of leftist countries whose attitude is reflected in your comments. As for our doing their dirty work, you obviously didn't pay all that much attention to what went on in the UN. Our opposition there did everything they could to prevent us from doing anything about Iraq. If they wanted us to do their dirty work, they would have given us their blessing. I think you're just a little bit confused.


Good point Bri, we didn't have the blessing of the UN to invade Iraq, after all Saddam wasn't compiling with the UN remember, they still didn't want us invade Iraq this time, doesn't that make the U.S. a war criminal of some kind then :?:  You said it.

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I like the way you selectively quoted my comments about your complaining about the current administrations finishing the job that Bush SR. didn't finish. You complain that Bush Sr. dropped the ball, but when his son goes in to pick up that same ball and run with it, you complain about that too. I reiterate. If Bush SR. had gone in after Saddam, you would have complained about it then as well. Now you complain about the fact that he didn't.


I blame Bush sr. for not taking Saddam out of power in 1990/91. If you remember I said "why would you use MILITARY FORCE to remove someone from a country and let them stay in power"

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First off the only reason we went to Iraq in 1990/91 is because the U.S, didn't want Iraq to have control of Kuwait's oil fields. Second why would you let someone stay in power after you just used "MILITARY FORCE" to remove them from another country?


There's something wrong with us not wanting control of Kuwait's oil fields in the hands of a genocidal maniac? Kuwait just happened to be an ally, and we felt obligated to come to her aid. I think you've got oil on the brain. And, again, what's your problem? George W is now doing what you seem to think should have been done back then.


How is Kuwait an ally, their not an enemy, but their not an ally either.

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The only way they could be used against "US" is if we were there. Iraq didn't have the capabilities to hit anything more them a few hundred miles away.


So, what you're saying is Saddam couldn't have sold or given WMDs to a terrorist group to smuggle into this country for use against us. Does the word "anthrax" ring any bells?

Smuggling all sorts of toxins into this country would be child's play for a determined enemy. It could come in in a toothpaste tube or any number of inocuous looking containers. Clearly, one does not need ICBMs to deliver such weapons. All one would need would be an airline ticket. I think Saddam could have afforded one or two of those.


You could say the same thing for a lot of countries, why aren't we bombing them?

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I'm not using any DNC talking points! Its the truth. I make my own opinion, unlike some of you that believe everything a certain political party or religion says. I never said said we were "looting" anyone, so please don't put words in my month. And yes gasoline is at an all time high. I believe it was one of "W's" 2000 campaign issues, he was gonna take care of that. He did a good job!


Of course you're not. It's just a mere coincidence that all the lefty demoncraps are echoing the same mantra. Speaking of putting words in someone's mouth, I never said I believe everything that any political party tells me. Nice try, but no cigar on trying to turn the tables on me. And, my religious beliefs haven't anything to do with this discussion, so kindly refrain from bringing them up.


I never said you specifically now did I? Maybe where there's smoke there's fire I don't know :shock:

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You may not have used the word "looting," but it adequately describes what we'd be doing with regard to the region's oilfields if, in fact, we had only gone there for the oil as you say.


It doesn't adequately describe anything. George Bush sr. said keeping Iraq out of Kuwait is in our "NATIONAL INTEREST", it was all about oil, Kuwait isn't our friend.

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Excuse me, but W never made any campaign promises about fuel prices. In fact, the economic problems he inherited were created by your boy, BJ. And, thanks to W's policies, we're beginning to pull out of the Clinton recession.


Yes he did say he was gonna do something about the prices of gasoline as well as electricity, just because you didn't hear him say it or read about doesn't mean he didn't say it.
I wasn't a huge fan of Clinton either, but let us not forget that under Clinton's watch the U.S. had the longest sustained economic growth in history. Even republican't Allen greenspan will tell you that. What gos up must come down.

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I'm glad to see that you agree that he did a good job.


Don't fool yourself.

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So I guess that means were gonna keep being attacked then. We don't use overwhelming force, are you kidding. We p*ssy foot around. Most so called experts say that Iraq was a fifth rate army if that. Were still there a year later. Iraq is probably woste off now then when we invaded.


Are you deliberately misconstruing what I said? From what do you conclude that we're pussy footing around in Iraq? I point out that our willingness to use overwhelming force would keep other countries, or forces, from attacking us. And, they haven't. Yes, we're still in Iraq, helping to allow a democratic government to be formed. We spent many years in Germany and Japan after those countries were defeated. I doubt that we'll spend near as much time in Iraq.


You obviously don't want to talk about countries that pose a real threat to the United States.

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And another lib talking point is in the air. Iraq is worse off now, with a genocidal/homicidal maniac and his two equally disposed sons removed from power than it was when they still controlled the country and tortured, raped and killed hundreds of thousands of people? You think you'd rather live in a country where you could be executed for criticizing the top guy? You think you'd have lasted a day in Iraq under Saddam if you'd said anything about him like what you say about Bush?


You could say the same thing about a lot of countries, but they don't have the revenge factor for daddy.

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I really get a kick out of how you simply will not give George W credit for anything. You assert, if I read you correctly, thst Libya's fessing up was because Reagan bombed that country years ago. Boy, it sure takes Qaddafi a long time to make up his mind doesn't it? I guess it's only a coincidence that it occurred hard on the heels of our actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.


That where you are wrong. It seem you only want to pick and choose what you quote about me. I've said from day one I give "W" all the credit in the world for Afghanistan. It was the right thing to do. The taliban was "harboring Al-quid.
Libya has been under the gun from every administration sense Reagan. I would give "W" to much credit if any at all for what they did.

September 11, 2001 and especially Libya mean a lot to me. As you know I'm from Syracuse New York. I remember the day December 21, 1988 (one day before my birthday) that Pan Am flight 103 was brought down over Lockerbie, Scotland. "35 OF MY BELOVED SYRACUSE ORANGEMEN WERE KILLED IN THAT INCIDENT" I'll never forget that until the day I die. "I" want to go to Libya just as bad as I want to go to Afghanistan. I would volunteer to go in a heart beat.
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« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2004, 10:05:11 AM »
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 :D Thank you very much , sir, I try to do what I can. But, sometimes it's like

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Bri, I hope your not calling me a liberal, I disagree with you on a few things and your gonna start labeling me. If you go back a ways, even on Marlin Talk, you'll remember that you and I agreed on a lot of different things. I hope your not gonna start making this personal. :shock:
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« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2004, 11:13:26 AM »
Who's making it personal? Cannot we have a heated discussion without you thinking it's personal?

You take offense at being characterized as a liberal, but, when you take the same position that is taken by liberals, you risk being so labeled. Nevertheless, you have my apology. I certainly wouldn't ever want to be accused of that.

I will say this one more time, and then we'll have to agree to disagree and, I trust, remain friends. You're angry at Bush Sr. for not taking Saddam out, and now you're angry with George Jr. for doing exactly that. It just doesn't make sense to me is all.

And, by the way, Clinton did involve himself in Iraq. Remember the cruise missile attack? He believed there were WMDs there, and he said as much. I believe that, if either George Sr. or BJ had had the cohones that George Jr. has, 9/11 would never have happened. If Bin Laden had had reason to expect the kind of retaliation that has been engaged in by us now, I don't think he would have done it. But, years of wishy washy foreign "policy" and weak leadership led him to believe that he could get away with it. He just didn't understand that he would be dealing with a different kind of President this time. Ditto for Saddam Hussein.

Yeah, we have other enemies in the world, but we can't take all of them on at the same time. They'll just have to wait their turns.
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« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2004, 11:47:53 AM »
Bri, no you have my apology. I probably over reacted. I always kinda listen to what you have to say. It just seemed as if you were getting down on me "because" I disagree with Iraq. I was all for it the first time. I have a hard time with it this time. Maybe because we went so long with out finishing the job that was started 14 years ago and now it a priority. I don't know. It just doesn't seem right to me. Saddam was no greater threat to anyone now then he was in 1990/91 in my opinion.

As far as Clinton bombing Iraq, other then the "no fly zone" I think he only did that to try to divert the attention from the Monica thing. You know the "wag the dog" thing. Again just my opinion I could be wrong.

About the only use I have for the "Dumocraps" is their "pro union" as I am, other then that I could care less about them. To be honest with you other then "being pro gun" so to say I don't have much use for "republican'ts" either. I don't trust politicians in general.

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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2004, 12:26:15 PM »
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About the only use I have for the "Dumocraps" is their "pro union" as I am, other then that I could care less about them. To be honest with you other then "being pro gun" so to say I don't have much use for "republican'ts" either. I don't trust politicians in general.

Thats just my opinion, FRIEND :-D


Just my 2-cents: About all the top of the party "Dumocraps" are BIG business men and women.   They say they are for the unions and the “little guy” just to get the votes of all those “little guys”.   If they really were for the unions and working class folks then they wouldn’t have the wealth they enjoy.   It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that money and power are more important than telling the truth.   Scary Kerry is one of the richest, thanks to Heinz Foods.   He even comes in 57 varieties, depending on who he is talking to.

As for the republicans being for big business, if it weren’t for those businesses, where would we all work?   Big business means jobs for us to go to.
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2004, 02:55:54 PM »
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About the only use I have for the "Dumocraps" is their "pro union" as I am, other then that I could care less about them. To be honest with you other then "being pro gun" so to say I don't have much use for "republican'ts" either. I don't trust politicians in general.

Thats just my opinion, FRIEND :-D


Just my 2-cents: About all the top of the party "Dumocraps" are BIG business men and women.   They say they are for the unions and the “little guy” just to get the votes of all those “little guys”.   If they really were for the unions and working class folks then they wouldn’t have the wealth they enjoy.   It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that money and power are more important than telling the truth.   Scary Kerry is one of the richest, thanks to Heinz Foods.   He even comes in 57 varieties, depending on who he is talking to.

As for the republicans being for big business, if it weren’t for those businesses, where would we all work?   Big business means jobs for us to go to.


Major, you bring up some good points, really. Some "Dumocrap's are "drifting" away from the "little guys". Just as some "Republican'ts" are "drifting" away from the "pro gun" people. I just hope the later doesn't get to bad! :(
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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2004, 04:33:45 PM »
NYH;
   Are all the Heinz 57 companies "unionized"....especially the majority of them which are located overseas?
   Three of the major reasons our country is in the trouble it is in......is because of
   1.) Trial Lawyers

   2.) Unions

   3.) Liberals....

    Both the trial lawyers and unions do as much as they can to make manufacturing here in the US as costly as possible and the Liberals are right in the hog pen with them ...helping them do it!!
   
  These three are  the major reason corporations have moved offshore!
 Thank you; unions!
 
  I have worked both union and non-union...and I see most union "workers" as a bunch of labor fakers; much more worried about their "rights" and finding a way out of work, than they ever are about quantity and quality of their work!
 
  When they do come onto a job, they concern themselves as to whether everyone else on the job is "union"....frankly, they ought to just do their job and mind their own business.
   
  I have seen these idiots actually quit work and go on strike, because they were working on the same job with people that are not in the union.
 
  What gives them the right to demand that another man may not have a job unless he belongs to "their club"? That is the lowest form of bigotry!
   
  Of course, we know why they don't want non-union folks around...because they cannot fairly compete, dollar-for-dollar..
     
  What a bunch of phonies many of the "Rah...rah..union" guys are!!

  I have seen several that have spent most of their working life as a labor-faking unionite...then they retire..
   
  Maybe they start a small landscaping company...or buy a small gravel pit with equipment and trucks...
   
  One would think that the way they always boosted the union, they wouldn't let a wheel turn without all their employees were either in the operating engineers or teamsters union!

  You can be sure THEIR COMPANY won't be unionized...they don't want to have to deal with that load of garbage!!

   At one time many years ago, the unions were badly needed....now they are just a scab on the butt of productivity!

   Sell your union propaganda to someone else; I would rather earn an HONEST wage!

  Now...please don't take it personal..it's not meant that way. Just take it as a comment from an old man that has observed both sides of many issues...
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« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2004, 04:57:11 PM »
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NYH;

   Sell your union propaganda to someone else; I would rather earn an HONEST wage!


I'm not trying to sell anything. :twisted:

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« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2004, 06:58:26 PM »
NYH,

I think I've got the picture now on your view of the difference between then and now. We can just leave it at that now. I may not agree with you, but it isn't written in stone that friends always have to agree with each other. It would be awful boring if everyone had the same opinion, don't you think? :D
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« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2004, 06:10:47 AM »
Bri, sounds like a plan to me.  :D
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« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2004, 07:57:10 AM »
As Iggy Ignatowski used to say, "Ooaakie doke." :D
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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2004, 01:24:34 PM »
Right guys...Perhaps I got a bit hot..sorry..
   But again I reiterate..not meant as personal...
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2004, 11:20:06 AM »
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Major, you bring up some good points, really. Some "Dumocrap's are "drifting" away from the "little guys". Just as some "Republican'ts" are "drifting" away from the "pro gun" people. I just hope the later doesn't get to bad! :(


I hope the later doesn't get to bad either.   But they are all politicians and you know what they say about that don’t you.   How do you tell when a politician is lying… his (or her) lips move.
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« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2004, 02:18:36 AM »
Uh...Huh...
    The Spanish voters capitulated....and voted the way the terrorists demanded...
  So has all terrorism in Spain halted????
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« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2004, 07:08:16 AM »
ironglow, no it hasn't and its not gonna either! I give the Japanese credit for staying the course with us so far. They very easily could of "caved in" and pulled their troops out to try to get their three hostages. They only have 500 or so troops in country. Thats the kind of allies we need if were gonna be successful. As small or as little help their offering to us at least their "not quieting on us" like some of our so called "European allies" :(

Whether I agree with us going back to Iraq or not doesn't change the fact that I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND OUR ALLIES 100%. I also think that once you start something you should finish it, especially if you commit to helping another country like some of our so called allies did!

I also think that sense we are back in Iraq we should bring everything we have to bear against our enemy. Telling the Marines to have a "cease-fire" in Fallujah when their in the middle of a major battle doesn't make a lot of sense to me. We have a family friend that as the Marines say is IN THE SH*T with the 1/5 Marines in Fallujah. This kid is 20 years old and this is his second hitch in Iraq in less then a year. He was there for the invasion last spring.

Like "W" said your either with us, or your against us. I think we should stand firm on this!

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« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2004, 07:32:27 AM »
ironglow, I forgot to ask you, how is your grandson doing?
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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2004, 04:43:38 PM »
NY hunter;
   Sorry I didn't see your question earlier.
      My grandson is doing fine so far; he is truly enjoying Marine boot training! Sounds odd to many ears, I suppose.
   Tonight, Tues. 4/13/04, he should be nearly half way through his final "really big" hurdle....THE CRUCIBLE!!! And to top it off, today is his birthday.
   At risk of becoming a bore (and a proud Gramps), I'll relate a few things.
  He has excelled at several important disciplines. Tops in his weight class with pugil sticks...standout in martial arts( to be fair, he had prior training).
  He qualified "Expert" with the rifle, with special mention for his making "possibles"(that is all in the black bull) with his rifle in rapid fire mode at 300 and 500 yards.....prior training for that too...but I told him to give the Marines all the credit!
    He did tell me that his platoon is not the best at drill or "spit and polish".
I have to presume that such a statement includes him also...BUT...he says his platoon almost invariably outperforms the others in the field.
   
    Folks like to boast about their kids in Ivy League schools...but I believe the true "cream of the crop" of young America, is our young folks that are serving in the military.
   These young folks are serving SELFLESSLY...the operative term that defines quality and class!
 
  THE CRUCIBLE...is like the "final exam" for Marine trainees. It is 56 hours of continuous hammering, with only 8 hrs. of sleep in two segments.
A "wringing out", as it were...separating the Marines from the boys!
   
    But I'm an old Army vet...perhaps a current Marine would like to describe THE CRUCIBLE to the rest of us!
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« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2004, 06:13:56 AM »
ironglow, thats good th hear. Sounds like he's gonna make one heck of a Marine.  :grin:
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« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2004, 11:48:26 AM »
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    Folks like to boast about their kids in Ivy League schools...but I believe the true "cream of the crop" of young America, is our young folks that are serving in the military.
   These young folks are serving SELFLESSLY...the operative term that defines quality and class!
 


ironglow,

You said it all in that statement!     God bless you and your grandson.
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« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2004, 03:42:44 PM »
Thanks Guys;
     When I spoke of the "cream of the crop", I meant all the troops from all branches...men and women..
     Folks, we have a great crop of  dedicated, quality young folks and their parents & grandparents should take great satisfaction in their offspring.
  I just wish some creepy politicians that are giving aid & comfort to the enemy now, would think of the extra, unnecessary danger they are putting
on these fine young troops that they themselves cannot even approach in quality..
   My hat is off to these fine young people that are offering so much!
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« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2004, 05:36:12 PM »
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 I just wish some creepy politicians that are giving aid & comfort to the enemy now, would think of the extra, unnecessary danger they are putting
on these fine young troops that they themselves cannot even approach in quality..


Crudballs like Kennedy, Clinton, Kerry, et al don't think about our military people as "people." They are just game pieces to be moved about a global board. When BJ was involved in his scandal, he thought nothing of sending out some of these pawns to die so as to distract the public from his misdeeds. When political interferance screws up the mission, it is the troops that they blame. When they cut back on the military to the extent that the mission cannot be accomplished, it is the troops that they blame. When, under administrations like BJ's, morale goes down the toilet, the politicians never take responsibility for it. But, let our people in uniform succeed, and they will all line up to take the credit. Remember when our military performed brilliantly in Afghanistan, and BJ, who had cut the militery to the bone, claimed credit for buillding up the military force that made it possible.

You know what? I think we should give Kerry a chance to prove what a great military leader and war hero he is - let him lead a platoon into Fallujah.
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« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2004, 06:59:17 AM »
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You know what? I think we should give Kerry a chance to prove what a great military leader and war hero he is - let him lead a platoon into Fallujah.

Come on Bri, you don't want to lose a "whole platoon" now do ya? Well not the "whole" platoon, I bet Kerry would make it out so he could get another "silver star". That seems to be his "MO" :eek:
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« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2004, 01:19:50 PM »
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You know what? I think we should give Kerry a chance to prove what a great military leader and war hero he is - let him lead a platoon into Fallujah.

Come on Bri, you don't want to lose a "whole platoon" now do ya? Well not the "whole" platoon, I bet Kerry would make it out so he could get another "silver star". That seems to be his "MO" :eek:



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« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2004, 04:20:18 PM »
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You know what? I think we should give Kerry a chance to prove what a great military leader and war hero he is - let him lead a platoon into Fallujah.

Come on Bri, you don't want to lose a "whole platoon" now do ya? Well not the "whole" platoon, I bet Kerry would make it out so he could get another "silver star". That seems to be his "MO" :eek:


You've got a real good point there. Maybe we can just assign him as an advance scout. Send him in, solo, about two days ahead of the troops. He probably wouldn't even notice that his firing pin was removed.  :wink:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Let him get his next silver star posthumously.
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« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2004, 05:36:10 PM »
Bri, :toast:
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« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2004, 08:08:14 PM »
Here's an idea.....Set him up as "point man".......
     

        .....in HUNTER ORANGE!!!

   Think he'd fall for it?
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« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2004, 03:46:11 AM »
I seriously doubt that anyone would follow Kerry; he could be an army of one though.  When the Iraqi insurgents hear what an awesome warrior he is, they'll run for the hills.
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