Author Topic: Stands (Read 796 times)

chunter · « **on:** April 26, 2004, 11:45:33 AM »

We are in the process of building stands for our smallbore silhouette league. These will not be self-reseting stands.
What we are looking for are the dimensions for each of the animal stands. We want to have a top row and a bottom row. Like the ones used at Raton New Mexico for Nationals. We just need to know the approximate lengths and heights needed for this types of stands.

Your help is very appreciated.

davei · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2004, 02:41:25 PM »

perhaps a small suggestion... have three rows. shoot 60 shot matches. takes little more time to shoot the match and adds little cost.

chunter · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2004, 05:18:05 AM »

Hey all I would like some critism on my proposed plans for building these stands. These stands will be made out of rail road track rails. Please let me know what you think needs to be changed so we can make some good stands out of these.

Thanks

http://cc.usu.edu/~chunter/stands.htm

p.s. some of you may notice that I have added about 1/2 to the length of each smallbore silhouette animal. I have done this on purpose to help make it less easily for me to screw up later.

nomad · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2004, 08:22:09 AM »

Chunter,

Looks pretty good to me!

Do have to agree with David's idea -- if you can add another rail now, you'll be organized whenever you want to set up 60 round matches. (IMO, 60 is the way to go and I wouldn't think that you'd have to add any height to your stand to accommodate a third rail.)

Are you planning on pads for the feet or just set on the rails? Will you use backing plates, berms or...?

chunter · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2004, 08:59:15 AM »

Each animal will have its own pad welded on top of the rails. Backdrops and berms are still in the works. Our range is enclosed by a 3 sided berm and has baffles going down the range.

I wish that we had the money for an extra couple of sets of animals. However, I don't know if we have enough room for a 60 round match. I am going to have to do some more measuring.

nomad · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2004, 10:43:46 AM »

Chunter,

Our hunter pistol group doesn't have resets and they shoot 60s on banks of 10 this way:

Relay 1 shoots 10 and the spotters reset.
Relay 1 shoots bottom 5 switches with relay 2.
Relay 2 shoots top 5 and the spotters reset.
Relay 2 shoots 10 then resets and everybody rotates.

If there are more people and you need added relays, you just continue the rotation.
One relay does a little more setting but we don't find it a problem and it really doesn't slow the match all that much...

dwl · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2004, 05:03:21 AM »

We have the money for a couple of extra sets. Remember? Find your buddy Jerry and lets get them. I want a set today. Lord knows I need the practice.

BTW still haven't found a flat bed trailer to move the rails. How long are they and how many can we haul in a pickup?

I'm thinking of buying some angle iron and 4X4s to make some temporary frames. I'm getting an itchy finger! How about this. Cut the 4X4s to make the vertical posts and add bases. Rout an L shaped slot for the angle iron. Install a threaded bushing in front of each slot for a clamping bolt.

On setup, slip the angle irons into the slots and tighten the bolts. Reverse for disassembly. The frame can be broken down and transported easily or stored in a shed at the range. I know, it's not the most rigid thing but it could get us practicing outside.

What do you think?

chunter · « **Reply #7 on:** May 01, 2004, 05:54:01 PM »

Hey DWL, I have been trying to think of a way to reduce the weight and simplify the structure, in order to speed up of the take down and setup. Take a look at this one:

http://cc.usu.edu/~chunter/stand2.htm

If we don't hear from the State quickly on the rails, we will need to look elsewhere for other supplies. I think your idea would be okay for a temporary stand. However, it might cost quite a bit for being just a temporary stand?

Let me know.

yankee · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2004, 03:17:41 AM »

You mention take down and set up. And you mention rail road rail. This stuff is heavy and not easily moved. See if you can find some grader or snow plow blades or some 1/2 or 3/4 plate 3 or 4 inches wide. The 4x4 idea will work. You can rotate it as one side gets chewed up. I would not use the angle iron on the 4x4 because a bullet that hits the angle will shake the entire rail. Or maybe hang the angle off the back of the 4x4 and set your animal on it.