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Chuck Hill vs. the Knight Elites
« on: April 25, 2004, 02:12:07 PM »
Some while back, Chuck Hill set out upon his own independent testing of a variety of the more popular .45 caliber in-line muzzleloaders. A few great shooters, some in the middle, and at least one sub-standard.

In any case, what Chuck discovered through his efforts was that the Knight Elite .45 was the most accurate of the pack, outshooting his already extremely competent T/C Omega .45 in some four out of five specific load combinations that were tested side by side, group for group.

The Knight Elite .50 caliber (I've never tested the .45 caliber version) still ranks as the most accurate muzzleloader I've ever tested in "out of box" configuration: http://www.chuckhawks.com/knight_disc_elite.htm .

Chuck has already fallen into the habit of pulling the trigger on one of his other Knights, and observing that hogs, deer, and other things tend to quickly die. Rather than opt for yet another complete smokepole for the arsenal, Chuck took a clever path. A new barreled action for the Knight Elite in .50 caliber, resplendent with non-C-Lect tool bolt, breechplug, and trigger. Procured and instantly shipped from Knight Rifles for $220 in stainless, Chuck reports that it also is "a real shooter," in its first go out.

One of the touted benefits of the Thompson Encore is the "platform" approach. If smokepoling is your primary bag, and you'd like duality of calibers in the same stock, the $220 Elite barreled action approach is a great one-- at less cost than a naked Encore barrel alone. Now Chuck can enjoy shooting either caliber, while his girlfiend is busy blowdrying the other barrel's breechplug. Sounds like a very smart move on Chuck's part, and to change calibers entails the removal / replacement of exactly one screw.  :eek:  :eek:  :eek:

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2004, 03:02:44 PM »
The Knight disc elite has been the topic of accuracy for a while now.
The Knight revolution has got some pretty big shoes to fill. :-)

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2004, 03:31:44 AM »
Quote from: grouse
The Knight disc elite has been the topic of accuracy for a while now.
The Knight revolution has got some pretty big shoes to fill. :-)

If it can Grouse, if it can.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2004, 07:16:36 AM »
I Concur Randy ! My Elite, is a Real Tack Driver!

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2004, 01:36:11 PM »
Quote from: Wolfhound
Quote from: grouse
The Knight disc elite has been the topic of accuracy for a while now.
The Knight revolution has got some pretty big shoes to fill. :-)

If it can Grouse, if it can.


If it can, They should sell a bunch more. I think they will.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2004, 06:24:41 PM »













Triggerman Chuck Hill can provide the commentary!  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2004, 06:30:01 PM »
Nice looking rifle. Too bad Knight has no thumbhole for the Elites. :cry:

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2004, 05:54:23 AM »
Nice.  I really like the stock on the Elite.  I looked at an article last night in the NRA magazine about the 52 Knight.  It has a push button bolt release instead of the screw.  I'm going to see if Knight can retrofit that to my Elite.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2004, 06:23:03 AM »
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I'm going to see if Knight can retrofit that to my Elite.


They can, they will, you have to send the barrel to Knight for retapping, and the cost is about $70.

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Commentary....
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2004, 02:23:52 PM »
Quite simply...Out of the thirteen muzzleloading rifles I have owned this Knight Disc Elite shoots more projectiles better, than any of the others.
1.  Two different projectiles/loads shooting an AVERAGE group size of less than an inch at 100 yds.  200gr SST and 250gr QT
2.  Four different projectiles shooting an average groups size of less than 1.5 inches at 100 yds. 200gr SST, 250gr SST, 250gr QT, and 245gr Barnes.
3. This is a "problem" I enjoy having!!!

Chuck
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Re: Commentary....
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2004, 04:15:41 PM »
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Quite simply...Out of the thirteen muzzleloading rifles I have owned this Knight Disc Extreme shoots more projectiles better, than any of the others.
1.  Two different projectiles/loads shooting an AVERAGE group size of less than an inch at 100 yds.  200gr SST and 250gr QT
2.  Four different projectiles shooting an average groups size of less than 1.5 inches at 100 yds. 200gr SST, 250gr SST, 250gr QT, and 245gr Barnes.
3. This is a "problem" I enjoy having!!!

Chuck


Extreme or the Elite?????

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2004, 04:23:31 PM »
Thanks Grouse...I fixed it!!!
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