sports wash, u-v-killer or n-o-dor mix from astko

[rickyp]

Anyone using sports wash, u-v-killer or n-o-dor mix from astko?
http://www.atsko.com
I have been using the sport wash and the u-v-killer for a while.
I have started to notice that the sports wash has been leaving a strange odor kind of like chlorine but I have a filter on my incoming water and my water doesn't have that smell so it has to be coming from the sports wash, The other day I got some new hunting clothes and put it under a black light to test it and lo and behold it glowed. I went out and bought a new bottle of the u-v-killer and sports wash brought them home ran an empty wash load with just the sports wash just to get rid of everything in the washer, then washed the new clothes let them line dry when they where good and dry I treated them with the u-v-killer let then line dry over night. then I rechecked  the treated clothes under the black light, They stilled glowed, I then checked the older hunting clothes I have treated in the past and they did not glow. I sent atsko an email telling them my problem. The next day I got a call from them asking me a bunch of questions and trying to tell me it is my fault that the u-v-killer didn't work after telling him that I followed the instructions to the t and that it is not my flat at all then he went on to tell me that it could have some powder soap build up in the washer. I told him that I never use power and so it could not be any buildup in the wash. the then told me to take a business card and spray it with the u-v-killer and see if it would block the brighteners. I din and it didn'd called him back and told him that it didn't work. I was told I would get a now bottle of u-v-killer in the mail this was about 8 weeks ago and still no u-v-killer.

Now on to the n-o-der odor killer I bought 2 packs (spray bottle and mix packages) now for the strange thing I only use filtered water for the mix. The mix should last about 30 days but I only get it to last about 24 hours before it turns green and smells like bad body odor. I told the rep about this he told me to keep it out of high heat and sun light, I told him that I keep in the black bottle that came with the pack and it is kept at room temp. he could not explain the reason it was turning green or couldn't care less. I was thinking it was my water so I filled the bottle with just the water and places it in as I keep the mix and it has been 3 weeks and no green and no strange order.

This company has gone way down hill in my opinion and now am looking for a new company to give my hard earned money

has anyone else have these problems? sorry for the long post but i want everyone to becarefull when they buy this stuff
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[KING]

Well...its your money and you can spend it any way that u want to......I have been hunting deer and other criters for about 40 years now....im 52 at da present..and at no point in myhunting career have i ever purchased any of this stuff that they are selling as secnt blocker,uv killers and doe urine..I dont seem to have anyproblems geting deer,or for that matter having some critters walk up and sniff me...  A point of interest to you and anyone who is interested......i raise orphand fawns and release them on a farm..i know that they are used to me and all that and they are released after about 14 weeks so they are good sized....i have had them track my nephews when they have used just about everything on the market to mask thhier scent so they dont smell ..human.....I spend more time in the woods that the average guy and i have had bear come up and smell me at swatting range,and deer do the same thing...now..if a tame deer can track a guy who bathed in this stuff,how can a wild deer not do the same thing...there is a lot of people out there that will take your money.....oh..by the way...give them fawns about 3 weeks and they wont go near anyone but me..or my labs...just as wild as a doe raised fawn at that point....good luck,and save yer money fer more toys...i do.... :wink:

[KING]

gleYa know,come to think of it..i never saw a guy hunting under a black light either

[jhm]

how was it posible for us to kill deer in mich 40 years ago when everybody wore black and red checked wool hunting gear that smelled of cigarette smoke and burnt toast and bacon?  remember back then everybody smoked and I did love burnt toast and bacon.  We have come a long way from just going out and enjoying the hunt,  Im not trying to be critical to anybody Im just as bad I have to ask myself sometimes what am I doing looking at this item for, is it a gimmick or does it have any marit, for the most part I usually pass.  I sure miss those black and red checked hunting outfits though dont think I would be able to get into my old one if I still had it around.   JIM

[Thomas Krupinski]

I suspect that camoflauge is just blending in with what's normally around and not considered to be a threat.  

With that in mind, if your hunting area is normally used for ranching and woodcutting, an old pickup belching fumes and a chain saw winning and burning 2 cycle oil will fit right in and not considered to be a threat.   Many times I have driven right by and up close to elk, just move slowly and they will just stand or lay there and watch you for any hostile intent.

Also I don't know if anyone else will admit it, but after tromping around for a couple of days in the hills I am sure I am more than a little aromatic.  Lucky for me the wind is usually blowing and strong enough to tell the direction.

Do I still dress in camo?  Sure that's just part of the experience and it helps you feel like you have a little edge.

[KING]

My normal mode of dress when im hunting with my longbow is a pair of gree wool pants...and a camo shirt that if had for over 15 yrs..along with a knife and old slouch hat....i smoke and probably smell something awful after several days inna woods,but the critters dont seem to care much.......king :-D

[rickyp]

I do agree with what most of you are saying. But we are always learning new things about the animals we hint. That is why when something new comes out I will give it a try. I have found most are just good for making my checkbook lighter. But I have found some products that I will not hunt with out using.
1)   No scent soap
2)   No scent deodorant (this does work well)
3)   No scent laundry soap. It does get the clothes clean and smells out.

I have tried several kinds of odor killers and find they work well for about an hour then are useless
I don’t believe a person can be totally odor free, hell we all keep our guns oiled well to prevent rust and make them work right. You don’t think the deer can’t smell the oil?

For the camo clothing, I think hunting is now more a fashion show then hunt. Look at the deer they are about the same size as the hunters and they don’t have camo clothing but they are hard to see even at 10 yards and a hunter with the latest camo is easy to spot at the same distance. The best thing to do is stay still be quiet and not worry too much about what you have on. I think hunters would be better off dressing for the weather and using the natural surroundings to break up there outline.

[Mikey]

Guys:  try Ivory Snow bath soap and detergent.  It works better than any of the 'hunting' stuff out there.  The detergent also helps remove the stuff you see under the black lights.  Unfortunately, it won't be Linda Lovelace who is scrubbing your back with it.  Mikey here.

[volshooter]

I use Ivory soap on me and my clothes during hunting. Works for me.
Rick

[Jose Grande]

I've enjoyed these posts. The last serious deer hunting I did was two yrs. ago. I killed a nice 9 pt. opening day. Two days later I went to the same field, but 100yds. futher north. I watched a 7 pt. for a long time. 15-20 min. All the time drinking coffee & smokeing a Marlboro or 3. It was real cold for this part of the U.S. & I decided 1 in hand etc. etc. I shot him at 75 yd.  Both of these with an M-1 Rifle. My brothers just shake their heads. They use all these blockers & killers & 300 super-dupers when all a person needs is to understand is: what do deer want? where do they get it?& keep the wind in your face. Good Hunt'in Guys cause I cain't do it like I used to.

[volshooter]

I'm with you here. I use IVORY soap only because I'm friends with a comercial apple orchard owner and he uses small motel bars of deoradant soap , hung on the small apple trees, to keep deer from eating them. Deer don't like the smell of it. Other than that I just try to keep my hygene current.  (some of them boys at camp .....I can smell them)  I don't support using any of the hide a soaps or cover scents or clothes wash.  I do ok.
Rick

[JeffG]

For me I use 20 Muleteam Borax and baking soda on my hunting clothes to wash them, line dry outside.  Don't wash them with the family laundry, there are UV brightners and purfume in the soap.  
 I shower with a bar of Castile's Hardwater soap, a lot like Ivory.  My hunting clothes don't get used for anything else, including the boots.  I keep everything in a Rubbermaid tub, and spray my exposed skin with baking soda and water in a spray bottle.  Common sense is all.

[Charlie Detroit]

All this talk reminds me of a couple of things...
1) We have an advertiser/member on this site, Ol' Tom by name, who markets a scent hider known as "Nose Camo," which has had some good results, or so I'm told. If you're trying stuff, check him out.
2) Back in the logging camps, the fallers used to kinda make "friends" with the local deer...their equivalent of a treat for the deer was a cigarette. The deer ate 'em. No ill effects that could be found. I've tried the same thing at the local zoo and the deer go nuts for 'em. Modern smokers: take off the dang filter! No self-respecting logger would've ever touched a filter ciggy.

[Graybeard]

I did a Product Test on the Nose Camo Ol Tom sells prior to him signing on as an advertiser on GBO. I like it.

I've been using a similar product of my own creation for perhaps 10 years or more. I'm convinced it helps as much as anything I've tried. I hunt in areas where pines are common and so the pine scent of Nose Camo is a common and well accepted scent in the woods. I suspect most hunt in woods with some degree of conifers where the pine scent would fit in.

GB

[yella hammer]

Hey C Detroit

Them mules in the zoo like a chew too

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