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Offline TScottO

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« on: March 13, 2004, 10:38:18 AM »
How is gun to gun accuracy with the CZ rim fires? When you purchase brands like Kimber, Anschutz and Cooper you can be pretty confident that you will have a shooter. They have to meet a certain accuracy requirement before they leave the factory. Are the CZ’s really consistent in the accuracy department from gun to gun or when you purchase a CZ is it hit an miss rather you will have a shooter or not?

You don’t read about many unsatisfied CZ customers.

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2004, 05:40:11 PM »
Well for starters, the initial outlay of cache for a CZ is no where near that of a Kimber or Anschutz. Both CZ's I bought new came with test targets sporting two, 3 rd groups under an inch for each rifle. Whether these targets were to test accuracy or to prove the function I don't know. I have found (like in most guns) that each rifle has a preference for ammo brand/type.

Shooting my CZ's I have been able to get 3/4" groups at 50 meters consistantly using a few different types of ammo. (no expensive stuff). At a 100 m's about a 1 1/2" five round group is the best I can do.

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2004, 08:14:12 AM »
A lot of the things you will pay for if you purchase a premier brand firearm has very little to do with the accuracy. The stock of a gun can run the price up 300 or 400 bucks in a hurry. This also goes for how refined the overall finish and machining of the firearm is. The CZ’s I have seen look pretty nice. There is no doubt in my mind they are a value for the dollar. From all the good reports I read about them it leads me to believe they spend their efforts in the workmanship that results in accuracy more so than aesthetics. If gun to gun consistency is there then what I tend to believe could be true. There is a lot of satisfaction in having a well refined gun but it’s a shame more companies don’t put their efforts into accuracy other than finish.

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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2004, 03:30:00 PM »
As a fairly new convert to CZ rifles, I can't say what the other guns do, but after shooing my new CZ 452 American, in .17 HMR today, I can tell you it prints tighter groups than the test target shows.
 My test target showed a 1" group of 5 shots at 50 yds. After sighting my gun in, with CCI ammo, it printed a 3/4" five shot group, at 100 yds!
 I shot two boxes of ammo through it today, and until I became a bit eye sore, it continued this type of grouping! That was with a 3x9 Tasco scope on it. I can't wait until my 6-24x44 scope arrives, so I can try to improve on these great groups!
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2004, 02:48:39 PM »
I have three CZs all will shoot sub MOA. CZs are one of the top compition rifles in Europe and have been for a long time 8)
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2004, 08:52:46 AM »
When you buy one of the expensive .22s, you expect a good performer ready to go out of the box and you normally get it. When you buy a CZ, you get a high quality barreled action with high accuracy potential but the gun may need a little work. Triggers are often creepy and rough. Barrel bedding may need to be adjusted. Stock finish may not be perfect and checkering may have flaws. But, the CZ that won't shoot well with some fine tuning is a rare bird. Comparing a CZ out of the box with an Anschutz out of the box is comparing apples and oranges - look at the price differential.

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2004, 05:07:42 AM »
Last year i bought a cz varmint 22 lr.
I told the salesman i wanted the most accurate rimfire for a reasonable amount of money. he recommended the cz bruno "with a little tweaking it will give you 1/2" groups at 50 yards" he said. He was right .

I bought a bunch of different ammo , and for me the federal gold medal match gives me consistent 0.3" groups

I also tweaked the trigger by repacing the trigger spring with one of my handgun trigger springs wich is way lighter.

Now i have a serious plinking rifle for a little amount fo money.

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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2004, 03:42:09 AM »
A lot of people use these rifles for smallbore silhouette. I don't have one but I've fired two, talked to several owners and followed what is posted on the boards. I don't recall anybody complaining about the accuracy.

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2004, 04:25:02 PM »
I have one- cut the barrel to the legal minimum[16 1/2''] and it shoots beautifully.

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2004, 01:54:33 PM »
The CZ is excellent for the price.  As stated some have used them for Silhouette (me) and they work real well for their accuracy.  The only drawback is the trigger because of heavy pull and creep. You will have that problem with any average firearm purchased.  I have just ordered an Anschutz Sporter to replace mine, but I just used my CZ 452 American to win the Arizona State Smallbore Rifle Silhouette Championship in the AA Hunter rifle.  You can get kits to improve the trigger and get it to where there is little no creep, I just dealt with it.  I am keeping mine even though it will be replaced for competition.

I would recommend them to anyone on a budget, or anyone using it for just plinking.  A great starter rifle for Silhouette too.   Maybe some day someone will make a drop-in precision trigger for them.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2004, 02:33:10 AM »
Try this website for trigger kits and other accessories. http://cz452.com/
I haven't put one in yet, but two other forums I go to highly reccomend his products. rimfirecentral & CZ-USA.

I enjoy my CZ-452 Special, I do not know if this model is still for sale.  I bought it because I liked the tangent open sights.

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2004, 07:09:11 AM »
I bought a CZ 452 Varmint .22 LR back in May and mated it with a Tasco 4 - 12X (parallax adj) using Millet rings. I took it to the range the next day and tried a few different brands of ammo. The last 3 groups that I shot at 50 yds from the bench were with Ely Tenex. All 3 were under a half inch with 4 of the 5 shots in one ragged hole.

I have since purchased a trigger kit from Brooks and replaced the factory spring with the lightest one in the kit. The pull is now about 8 oz with no creep. Also, I was able to slide a dollar bill between the barrel and stock right up to the receiver.

I have a high regard for the CZ 452. It's a very good rifle at a very reasonable price. I think of it as the "poor man's Cooper."

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