#1 in blue

[Roadtrash]

I just looked at the Ruger site and they don't list a number 1 45-70 in anything but the SS version.  Have they stopped making the blue model?
Roadtrash

[Castaway]

I think you may be confusing the "S" or Sporter model with Stainless.  They make the # 1 in both versions.

[Yukon Jack]

They are still making the blued version in the S model with 22" barrel.

[Roadtrash]

Thanks I must have misunderstood what I was looking at.  With me it happens from time to time when I get in a hurry.  I'm wanting to get a new 45-70 and I can't afford some of these other things like the Ballard or Shiloh.  I just wish the Ruger came with a longer barrel.
Roadtrash

[John Traveler]

Don't we ll wish the Ruger Number One came with a longer, heavier barrel!

Every few years, Ruges does/did make Number One Commemoratives with longer Octagonal barrels and longe-range sights.

If you are lucky enough to find a Lyman Centennial Commemorative or Creedmore Centennial Commeorative it will fit the ticket: longe range vernier sights, long heavy octagonal barrel, presentation case.

Just thinking about it makes me WANT one right now!

John

[50 Calshtr]

Roadtrash,
    When they first came out the 45-70 was available in a 24 or 26 inch bbl, can't remember which.  Check the various on-line markets and you may get lucky and find an old one.  Good luck!

[Prince of Wales]

I looked on www.gunsamerica.com and found #1s w/26" brrels and 24" barrels but not in 45/70. You might have better luck with the Brownings with 45/70 and long barrels. Good luck. POW

[captainkirk]

I had the same dilemma and really wanted a #1 45-70 but had to have the heavy bbl.  I settled on a #1 in 458 and haven't looked back.  Cast bullets and light loads of SR-4759 makes a "belted" 45-70 that shoots great and is easy on the shoulder.  I know it doesn't have the heritage or the mystique of a "real" 45-70, but I sure enjoy mine.

PS at around $500 or so on the used market, you just might find a guy with a #1 458 and a box of shells with one shell shot anxious to rid himself of a beast...

[marlinman93]

The Lyman Centennial had a 28" heavy round barrel. They have a nicer balance both in handling, and asthetically. The Ruger #1 is a great looking, strong action, but looks somewhat odd with the lighter, short barrels they offer. I'd buy more of them if they would offer long octagon, or heavy round barrels.

[Roadtrash]

You guys may be right.  While I really want one in 45-70 I may end up buying the 458 or something similiar.  As you mentioned it can be loaded down to the 45-70s ballistics or I could load it up and use it to kill dump trucks and stuff.  What's the barrel length on the 458?
Richard

[John Traveler]

The Ruger Number One in .458 Winchester is a 22" heavy barrel.

The .45-70 is a 22" lighter barrel.

[crazyjjk]

Roadtrash,
    When they first came out the 45-70 was available in a 24 or 26 inch bbl, can't remember which.  Check the various on-line markets and you may get lucky and find an old one.  Good luck!

Any original #1 with a barrel longer than 22" other than the Lyman Centennial Version are extremely rare and will go for substantially more than than even the Lyman version.

[captainkirk]

The Ruger #1 in 458 has a 24" Barrel not a 22"

[marlinman93]

Crazy,
 The long barreled #1's are rare and tend to go in the $700-$1000 range, depending on caliber, but you'll never find a Lyman Centennial for that little! The Centennials tend to go in the $2000-$2500 range, the few times they are offered!

[crazyjjk]

Crazy,
 The long barreled #1's are rare and tend to go in the $700-$1000 range, depending on caliber, but you'll never find a Lyman Centennial for that little! The Centennials tend to go in the $2000-$2500 range, the few times they are offered!

I agree with you on long barreled #1's in general. What I was saying is long barreled #1's in 45-70  are extremely rare much rarer than the Lyman version and far outdistance the price of the Lymans. And yes they did make a few of the long barreled 45-70's. I believe they were mainly in the Lyman Configuration without the Lyman markings. I also believe they made a few 24" heavier barreled versions or the tropical configuration as they are called. Basically same as how the 458 #1 is put together only in 45-70.

[marlinman93]

Guess I'll agree to disagree. I've seen a few #1's in .45-70 with similar shaped barrels to my Lyman Centennial, but never saw one sell for over $1,000 so far. Even a Lyman without the box would sell for more than that. Heck the scopes on them are selling for $600-$700 alone.

[Prince of Wales]

BUMP!!!

[Castaway]

marlinman93, haven't visited this thread for a while.  Saw your rifle and it sure looks like a good way to poke out an eye!  How do you shoot it with the scope so far back without developing a kevlar scar over your brow?