Author Topic: Crow-Feather a question for you? (Read 862 times)

jh45gun · « **on:** June 24, 2004, 05:53:18 PM »

Crow-feather, Since you have knowledge of what is traditional and what is not? I see on new production flinter and caplock target guns peep sights and globe front sights was that done in the old days? Jim

crow_feather · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2004, 07:14:01 AM »

jh45gun,

I have my own opinion, I will not say that it is the correct one, only the one that I use when I begin to wonder if a rifle is Traditional or not.

Could a peep sight and globe front sight have been fashioned by a gunsmith with the materials and techniques available at the time? Yes.

Were there peeps and globes available at the time? I believe on target rifles.

Would such a rifle have been seen at a rendezvous? I don't believe so.

If the question is asked to determine where you should discuss this rifle in Greybeard, I would enjoy hearing about it.

If you ask this question to try and enter this rifle in Traditional competition, what ever is written here will have no bearing. Most competitions have their own rules as to what is allowed in competition.
Quite a few require non-adjustable sights. If it were my vous competition, I would narrow the field to those rifles carried by trappers during the fur trade.

Best of luck,

C F

jh45gun · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2004, 10:57:19 AM »

Thanks for the reply. On my traditional round baller I am going to make a peep for it but it will be a primitive stlye like you see with the long strap going back from the rear sight dovetail. Why I was asking on my underhammer I am making it will sport a globe front sight and a rear peep that will fit on to the tang that I bought at a rummage sale for a buck. The sight came off of a Savage NRA Target rifle and looks kind of neat and will fit on the tang with 2 screw holes. tbe base and the tang both match up at .5 inches so it should look good on the gun. Thanks for the info. This gun will not be shot at any matches anyway it will be a hunting gun. Jim

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2004, 08:24:21 AM »

I bought my Numrich Arms "Hopkins & Allen" underhammer in 1968. It is the Heritage model and came with a peep sight and globe front w/ inserts. The peep sight is neat in that it has three aperture sizes which you select by rotating the one you want into position.

-WH-

Ramrod · « **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2004, 11:33:16 AM »

I don't think you will be happy with the globe on a hunting gun. It is a target sight. Just my :money:

Good time Charlie · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2004, 07:29:44 AM »

With these 65 year old eyes of mine I love the peep sight on my lyman .54. If I am going to shoot I need it. tradisonal? I don't really care as long as I am making smoke with a side lock.
Charlie

filmokentucky · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2004, 09:19:50 AM »

Charlie-How does the peep sight work as a hunting sight-in the woods? As for traditional, there were peep sights on matchlocks. So they've been around for a while. And they are a boon to tired old eyes, I agree.

Ramrod · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2004, 11:30:06 AM »

What I was getting at is that no matter what your eyesight, target sights are crappy hunting sights. We were talking about a globe front sight. Unless your game animal has a nicely contrasting black and white aiming point on it, you won't even be able to make out the front site against a dark background. You won't see it in the dark woods either. Big game animals are large easy marks and your best bet in a hunting situation is a LARGE easy to see, light colored front sight. A big brass or silver blade or (more modern) a big ivory bead.

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2004, 03:21:30 PM »

Ramrod

My soon-to-be 60 y.o. eyes can make out the post on a Lyman 17A globe sight very well, but I have a real problem with gold bead or white front sights (tried them). In the sun they turn into a big glare spot out at the end of the barrel, and I can't make out the target. I have the standard front sight blade on my GPR, which is blued, and have no problem with that either. So I guess it ends up that a person needs to try different sights and see what works best for them.

Hey, it's the 4th of July weekend! Get out and burn some powder, folks!

-Winter Hawk-

Ramrod · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2004, 06:29:20 PM »

Winter Hawk, it appears you didn't read my last post very well. I don't think you have ever looked through a globe sight. Sights that work on the target range DON'T work in the woods. And yes, a bead is hard to see in the sun. So tell me, how many deer have you shot at high noon on sunny days? And how many in the woods, or when they are usually out in the open, at dawn, or dusk? This is what most of us in the lower 48 are up against. Bad light, hard to see target, you better be able to see the front sight.

filmokentucky · « **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2004, 07:00:44 PM »

I've got a sterling silver blade on my .62 caliber flintlock rifle and it almost glows under low light conditions such as prevail in the woods here in the east. It's no problem to line up in morning or late afternoon light.
Never been deer hunting at noon but I expect it would work then, too.

crow_feather · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2004, 04:56:01 AM »

I've taken more deer between 11 AM and 2 pm than I ever have in the morning or evening.

C F