Author Topic: pig shot last night with Reington 7400 308 (Read 1729 times)

howie1968 · « **on:** July 03, 2004, 02:21:41 PM »

Whew it was a mad dash yesterday, i had to scope my rifle i just bought from a friend siught it in and do it before 7pm i started at 430pm. got to the range at 530 and wow the gun is incredible Ive been getting 3 shot groups a little over an inch using factory winchester 150 gr power points, I normally would use Remingtons but our wal-mart does not have any just winchesters. left for my lease and noticed 3 deer feeding from my number 1 feeder I had to wade in water almost knee high to get to my location and the bugs were horrible, it was in the high 90 s when i got into the stand, about 1230 am off in the distance i heard some grunts and squeals so i knew they were heading towards the baited feeder. i mounted my optronics varmitblaster 250 to this rifle and i felt confident i put my head down so the bugs would not get to me any worse when i seen the little ones run out first a total of 8 pigs showed up. I was really hunting this big boar i have been chasing since December when I lined up on the smallest of the bunch i shot him in the shoulder and he dropeed in his tracks . this is the first time i havce had a factory cartride pebnetrate a HOg other than 45-70 or 375H&H mag blew an exit wound about 2 inches in diuameter

oso45-70 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2004, 06:05:52 PM »

Howie,
You are getting pretty good at posting your pictures, Wish i wasent so damned stupid so i could post mine, Maybe some day someone will come by that knows how will give me a hand. I was given instructions on here but still can't do it. Well now that you have a new rifle i guess you will really give them what for. How do you like your new toy ? Does this mean you are going to sell me one of you other guns?

Didn't think so. Well Howie better go its getting late so i better go to bed. I'll look at you tomarrow,, Take care............Joe...................................................

howie1968 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2004, 06:15:53 PM »

hey Joe, if you want ill give you a call and help you post them it is rather simple once i started doing it. i love my new gun it is my first Semi-auto hunting rifle i have owned and i wonder why i never tried one before the guns shoots great actually better then my beloved 30-30 and right on [par with the 270, and i do not have to operate a bolt or a lever. also after shooting the pig i stayed on target and easily could have have taken another one. being a left handed shooter i cannot cycle a lever or bolt that fast. to bad they dont make onein 45-70 but i have seen a 35 whelen in this caliber, going back to my days of using a 30-30 if i do my part and put the bulet in the right spot i shouldnt need anything bigger

wilko · « **Reply #3 on:** July 03, 2004, 11:10:29 PM »

Howie, i have a question. You speak about hot temperatures, humidity and insects.. correct me if i am wrong but i would assume it will take several hours before you have a chance to process and properly cool the meat after you shoot the pig. Doesnt that give any problems in these conditions ?

thanks !

howie1968 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2004, 04:36:05 AM »

Wilko yes you can run into someproblems with heat and meat if the hog runs off and you have to look for him in general i carry a chest of ice depending on the hogs size i will skin and quarter him right there in the bed of my truck for just about any size i can have him skinned and quartered in around an hour , where i run into problems is if he is to big for me to get into the bed of my truck i carry a chain hoist with me so generally he would have to be a very big hog for me not to get him in the truck, you should see me loading a pig i am sure it is funny.
some people may not agree with the way i do hogs but it is so easy when you are doing it all by yourself i ream the arms and leges and stick my knife uner the skin and slice it up to the nexk i ream around the nexk and make a long slice down to the tail then i peel it off, then i get the back straps and get the quarters ,.

wilko · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2004, 04:48:18 AM »

oke another question and i hope you dont mind but i am trying to learn :-)

i have read that hogs may carry more parasites that other "game" ... is that true or just fiction ? how do you prepare the meat then ? extremely well done ?

howie1968 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 04, 2004, 05:08:18 AM »

Ask as many questions as you like, that is what i am here for i enjoy heping people learn more about this awesome sport. if i cannot answer something i am sure many of the other gentleman will be able to. yes they do carry parasites i would name them or at least the ones i have heard of but my spelling of them would confuse you. cook wild pork very done i have heard an internal temp of at least 180 degrees, also it is a good idea to carry latex gloves these hogs most genrally have ticks and lice so protect yourself if you have open wounds attempt to cover them up these are just a few precations I keep bottled water a first aid kit and rubber gloves in the truck at all times and triple antibiotic ointment

FOsteology · « **Reply #7 on:** July 04, 2004, 07:04:30 AM »

That's a good eating hog right there :grin:

Yeah, with the heat (especially here in Texas) it's paramount that you get them cleaned and packed in ice or in a walk-in cooler ASAP.

Good advice on the gloves Howie. So many guys will neglect them as they feel it's more of a cumbersome than an aid.

rickt300 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 04, 2004, 07:21:19 AM »

I have a friend who is one of those miserable one gun hunters and lives in Wyoming. He has shot everything except moose with it including some huge bull elk and the load he swears by is that 150 grain Winchester powe point out of a remington 308 M700. He also likes the 150 grain Remington pspcl but says it is softer and won't use it on anything bigger than deer..

howie1968 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2004, 07:39:46 AM »

I agree i do not know what winchester did different but this load penetrated this hog as stated before using other calibers other than 45-70 and 375 H&H this is the first full penetration i have i have a pic of a 150 gr psp core lokt shot from a 30-06 that i hit a 200 lb boar with that turned inside out the distance was 30 yards it resulted in the animals death but with pigs it is important to get plenty of penetration this hog did not take 2 steps fell right in his tracks that has seldom happens unless i put a neck shot on one

howie1968 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2004, 07:46:05 AM »

well i figured that about 5 pair of gloves weigh 1 oz so it is well worth my effort i carry a tote from wal-mart that holds all my hunting equipment wire rope anything i need for a hunt i keep it in my truck, then again i am in the woods every day weather permitting

wilko · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2004, 09:58:38 AM »

Those gloves are indeed a good idea.

thanks !!

fortress49 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2004, 02:49:55 AM »

Howie,

You must be keeping the community in hog meat from all the hogs you are taking! Great job and I'm sure the deer hunters are loving it too.

Matt

TomD · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2004, 01:52:00 PM »

Are those the Wichester rounds with the gray polymer tips and the black coating on the bullets?

There a deadly combo...my brother in-law uses them in his Winchester model 70 in 270, and their devistating on Deer!!

I tried them in my Savage 111 in 7m-08 and counldn't get them to group as well as the 140gr remington Green Box.

howie1968 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2004, 02:07:43 PM »

those were just standard power points the ones you are talking about are called power point plus and they have moly coating on them i shoot the cheapest thing i can find lol and around hear the winchester power points are 13.00 a box if they would have had remingtonbs i would have bought them but since these shoot so well i will keep buying them

Bama76 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:37:07 AM »

Where is the entry wound Howie? I'm trying to figure where to shoot these oinkers.

Mike

howie1968 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2004, 03:24:04 PM »

entry wound was high in the right shoulder the left shoulder was blown out we washed the hog before skinning as it had alot of lice on him i shoot them in the shoulder area forward the neck and head are good choices stay away from behind the shoulder shots

Bama76 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2004, 08:42:20 AM »

thanks Howie.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2004, 05:50:41 AM »

Am I mistaken or is that a typical domesticated pig ?
Just curious.

howie1968 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2004, 09:46:58 AM »

aklot of wild pigs down hear favor domesticated pigs, there is a reason for this, from what i am told back in the arely days people used to let there hogs roam the land and used dogs and othe means to gather them, so alot of the pigs will favopr doemstic animals, ive heard some theories that say once a pig has been doemesticated then turned loose they are amuch smarter animal, any of the [pigs i hunt are fair chase and i assure you that you will not be able to just throw a handfull of corn down and they come. i have seen some odd colors of pigs but around this area the big boars all have black and some white in there legs so i wonder what type of cross they are, one way to tell if t hey are feral or russian boars is domestic pigs have an extra little tooth on the right hand side of there jaw russians do not have this

Zachary · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:17:50 PM »

I'm kinda surprised you got that kind of penetration of those power points. How far away was your shot? My brother once used my 7mag on a deer/hog hunt. I was away in law school at the time, and he doesn't know much about bullets and ammo. I told him to get 160 Noslers, but he got 150 power points. To make a long story short, he shot at a 250lb+ hog about 60 yards away, and he said that the hog ran in the wide circle and took off. They went to where the hog was hit, found chunks of bone and blood, but they never found that hog. It was a shoulder shot (which I told him not to take, but I guess he got excited) so I definately know that the power points didn't penetrate.

Zachary

howie1968 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2004, 12:32:48 AM »

hey Zachary long time no see how are you?? well to be honest i can understand why a 150 gr power point out of a 7 mag failed the difference being this a 7 mag 150 starts out at better than 3200 compared to 2850 with the power point in 309 the bullet holds together better because the velocity is not as fast anytime you break the 3,000 fps mark it will take a strong bullet such as the partition X bullet fail safe grand slam premium, bullets but this cheap ammo works well when loaded to modest specs. i know you know alot about guns and all and i totally respect you and your beliefs i have followed you since i have been a mamber. but i do not use premium bullets i use the cheapest i can find at wal-mart either core lokts or power points, i do not shoot magnums except for the 375 H&H i once had and then again i used Reminton 300 gr and got complete penetration on a pig over 300 lbs but t hen again you are talking 4,200 foot punds of energey. other than the 45-70 and 375 this was the first bullet i have ever had that penetrated completely through a hog, granted he was not overly big. but the ranges in which i shoot hogs are generally bow shooting range30 yards is about norm i may stretch it to 50 yards when hunting a box stand. the biggest hog i took down was one well over 400lbs and he fell to a single shot from a factory core-lokt 170 gr 30-30 and had adequate penetration. i think for hogs if using a 7 mag if a premium bullt is not available then use a 175 gr corelokt or other similar non- premium bullet will work just fine let me know what you think

Zachary · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2004, 06:24:38 AM »

Hi Howie,

First off, thank you for the kind sentiments.

As for the plain jane 175 core-lokts in the 7mag, I think that I used them a long time ago on a hog. The shot was about 100 yards away under a feeder, and the shot was behind the shoulder - where there was no grisle plate to really stop it. Yes, the bullet did fully penetrate, but the hog was only about 100 pounds - no more.

Sure, the heavier the bullet, the less the need for it to be premium. And if shots are under 100 yards, then it really doesn't make that big of a difference. So if i use 160 partitions, then the equivalent might be 175s.

For hogs, I don't think there is a better bullet than the Barnes X, or now the new TSX. That's the ONLY bullet I now use for hogs, especially the larger one. The only exception is that I have also have a .375H&H and I use 300 grain Partitions - what a load! Never had one run yet!

Zachary

howie1968 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2004, 07:42:59 AM »

i agree with you about premium bullets, lol i just cant fork out the extra$ for them if i were a hunter only hunting them 1 or 2 times a year i would use premium bullets since i am done with reloading and spend most every day in pursuit of these fine animals, i spend alot of time at the range also sometimes a mad dash to get a little shooting in then go hunt other than the 308 i always use the heavyest bullet for the calber i can like in 270 i use 150 30-30 i use the 170. i think if i used a 100 gr in 270 and took shoulder shots id have them runningo0ff everywhere using factory remingtons the bullet was not designed to penetrat

Mohawk · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:46:58 AM »

When Markc and I went hunting I shot my first hog with my new .280 Remington. Used the standard 150gr. Remington PSPCL. Bullet entered through the ribs and proceeded through one lung. clipped the spine, passed through second lung, then exited through the far shoulder. I think it barely was able to exit because the exit hole was much smaller, maybe 1/2", than it should have been. Exit hole on a deer I shot was near two inches.

Good to see you're still gettin' those East Texas Hogs, Howie. :grin: