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Offline 5Redman8

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Replacing sights?
« on: July 27, 2004, 05:35:34 AM »
Not sure if this should be in the gunsmithing section or here....but I am about to replace the sights on my SA 1911 Champion.  Do any of you have advice???  Please help me out.  Biggest question I have is how to remove the front sight?

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Replacing sights?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 06:53:32 AM »
The current production Champions have a dovetail Novak cut front sight. If yours has this sight, look for a vertical pin that locks the sight into the dovetail. It's a matter of driving out the pin then drifting the sight out of the dovetail. Some Novak sights do not have the lock pin and are staked in the dovetail. You should be able to see the pin or stake. If staked, you just drift the old sight out with a wood dowel and a hammer.

If your Champion came with a tenon sight, you have to drive it out from inside the front of the slide. This will ruin the tenon so the sight can not be reused. Also, replacing a tenon sight is tricky. They literally rivet in. If done improperly, it will shoot loose or interfere with the bushing. Might be a good job for a gunsmith.

I'd call SA for advise. They should be able to identify the exact sight and give you removal instructions. There are several types of sight mounts used by SA. Before you demo the existing sight, you might want to look through Brownell's catalog for a replacement. http://www.brownells.com There's a big selection but you have to make sure you buy the type that fits your slide.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 07:31:01 AM »
Looks like I have a tenon sight...there is no dovetail cut and inside the frame I can see a small rectangle just below the front sight.

So what you are saying is drive the original sight out with a punch and the put the new sight in and do what???   If you would, explain how it is done and I will see if I am comfortable doing it or if I will have a smith do it.

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Kyle

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 08:03:56 PM »
First, there are two sizes of tenons. The older 1911s had the skinny tenons and the newer guns use the wide ones. Make sure you buy the right size, probably a wide one.

Disassemble the slide and observe the little rectangle directly under the sight. Place the slide on the edge of a wood block. The sight will be on the bottom and hanging over the edge of the block. Use a punch and drive straight down on the dead center of the rectangle. The first few hits should reveal the "rivet head". Drive the sight all the way out.

Inspect the inside of the slide. You will notice a recessed area where the rivet head goes. Clean it out as best you can. OK here's the tricky part. You will need an off set punch with a bevel tip. Look at http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=916&title=1911+AUTO+FRONT+SIGHT+STAKER They cost about $30. Place the new sight in the tenon hole and seat it all the way in. Place the slide on an anvil or surface where you can rest the front sight on a solid metal plate. With the staking tool and a hammer, use a series of straight down light hits to form a rivet head. Continue until the sight is securely bottomed out and tight. Take a half round file and dress the rivet head until the bushing fits without hitting the tenon. If you get wild and take to much head off, the sight won't stay on. If you try to use a straight punch, you can't get a straight down hit. The angle hit may damage the slide and won't secure the rivet.

I've done a good many of these and I'll say the first few are not that easy. Once you get the hang of it, you can do one in 10 minutes.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2004, 05:06:32 AM »
Iowegan,

Okay, that did it.  Since I will not be doing many of these, I think my smith will be getting a call.  Your info was great but I can see what you meant by "tricky".

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Kyle