209 X 50 Pistol

[Darrell H]

There has been several posts here lately about 209 X 50 pistols.  This got me to wondering how much velocity I am getting with mine so last weekend I took my 14 1/2" Bullberry 209X50 BP Encore to the range to do some chronographing. I had never tried Triple 7 powder, so I was going to see how it performed. I started with 60 grains of Triple 7 and worked up in 10 grain increments to 110 grains. I used a CCI primer and a 250 grain Hornady SST bullet/sabot in all loads. The results were as follows:

60 grains T7 - Average velocity 1375 fps
70 grains T7 - Average velocity 1433 fps
80 grains T7 - Average veloctiy 1479 fps
90 grains T7 - Average velocity 1532 fps
100 grains T7 - Average velocity 1607 fps
110 grains T7 - Average velocity 1677 fps

The extreme spreads were very good in my opinion. The best extreme spread was 9 fps and the worst was 31 fps. Accuracy was about the same in all loads with the 70 grain load giving the best group( and the best extreme spread). All of the groups were 1" to 1 1/4" at 50 yards. I am very pleased with the velocity of these loads. As a comparison I fired a shot from my 26" 209 X 50 using the same bullet/sabot using 110 grains of T7 and got a reading of 1950 fps. In other words, a 12" shorter barrel is losing 275 fps.

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[Jeff Vicars]

2F or 3F?

[Darrell H]

Jeff,

I was shooting FFG Triple 7.

Thanks,

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[rickyp]

have you done thistesting  with purodex p or RS?

[Darrell H]

have you done thistesting with purodex p or RS?

I have not done any chronographing with Pyrodex RS or P Ricky.  I have done some accuracy testing with Pyrodex RS but I have never shot any Pyrodex P.  Pryodex RS shoots "OK" in this gun but not as good as GOEX FFG did.  I plan on shooting some GOEX loads and some Pyrodex loads this weekend to compare to.  I'll let you know how they compare.

Thanks,
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[rickyp]

please do.

I have a 14 inch 209x50 bullberry CONTENDER barrel. and my load right now is 90 GR of pyrodex P and a 45 cal 240 GR.hornady XTP mag bullet
May be swtching to Barnes 225 XPB

[SmithAC]

Thanks for posting your results, I have two 209X50 barrels and am thinking of having one cut to pistol length. How hard is it to load with the pistol grip?
Craig

[Darrell H]

SmithAC,

Its not hard to load.  I take an old towel and lay it on top of the bench at the range.  Then I stand the gun up resting the back of the grip and the scope on the towel to clean between shots and reload.  I'd never thought about it, but if it didn't have the scope on it it might be harder to load.

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[rickyp]

The way I load mine is: I put the grip in my lap just where my leg joins my body. doing this it gives the gun plunty of support and it works well when I am hunting from a tree stand.

[Darrell H]

I did some more chronographing this weekend with the 209 X 50 pistol.  Now I remember why I bought a chronograph.  I killed two hogs last year with this pistol with 100 grains GOEX FFG and a Hornady 250 grain SST.  I was very disappointed in the killing power of this combination, but it was the most accurate combination that I had tried at the time.  I have never chronographed it until now and I think I know why I didn't get the expansion on the SST bullet that I was after.

All of the following loads were 250 grain Hornady SST/Sabots and CCI 209 primers:

100 grains GOEX FFG - Average velocity 1199 fps :eek:  , extreme spread 56 fps  No wonder I wasn't getting any bullet expansion

90 grains Pyrodex RS - Average velocity 1422 fps, extreme spread 50 fps
100 grains Pyrodex RS - Average velocity 1485 fps, extreme spread 82 fps
110 grains Pyrodex RS - Average velocity 1463 fps, extreme spread 121 fps

After this testing, I will be shooting Triple 7 in this gun.  

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[rickyp]

x-caliber,
I am using a load very close to you and I two have not been happy with the results of the hornady.
I am now looking at  the Barnes  45 Long Colt .451 225 gr.XPB
Pistol.
 This is taken from emails from Barnes
"bullets expand at an impact velocity of 900fps and will do well in the Contender" " This same bullet is used in the 454 Casul at velocities above 1800fps and still retains pedals. You should have no problems at 1500fps."

[Rog]

Triple 7 FFg is faster in my 209x50 15" bbl than Pyrodex Pellets of the same charge wt.  by a significant amount (right at ~100fps).