Author Topic: Scope decision? (Read 1178 times)

crackshot · « **on:** August 07, 2004, 02:20:07 PM »

I have narrowed my scope choices down to a few:

!. Nikon Monarch 3.5x10x50 illuminated nikoplex
2. Burris FF2 3.5x10x50 illuminated plex (LRS)
3. Bushnell 4200 2.5x10x50 illuminated #4 dot.

Anyone with any comparisons and opinions? Will be used for lightweight hunting rifle with shots less than 200 yards looking over greenfields and into cedar and pine thickets. Thanks in advance.

7magWoodsman · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2004, 03:17:25 PM »

Why such a heavy scope on a rifle you want to be lightweight?

Out of them choices I would choose #1 I have a 3x-9x 40mm Nikon and the poor thing has been there and back and still holds zero like it did the day I bought it. I also have a Bushnell Elite and love it. A lot of people prefer it just because of the rainguard and it does work, but I get this pink stuff from the optometrist and apply it to my Nikon and it repels water and eliminates fogging just as well. Everyones Eye is different so the ultimate choice is what looks best to you...I just prefer my Monarch to my Elite...I have had no experience with Burris but have heard good things about them.

I myself would stay away from illuminated scopes for three reasons
1.more places for water to enter in.
2.any light between your eye and the target will cause a "darker" image. Some people will argue this but it is a common overlooked fact that our eyes adjust with the light, which is sometimes a bad thing.
3.Battery

but it is your choice, my cousin has one and loves it but I still seem to make it out of the woods last.

also it is personal preference but I also dislike large 50mm objectives, I bought one one time and hunted with it twice, I just couldn't seem to maneuver my rifle as good in the thick stuff and that extra little bit it sit up off my gun both irritated me and totally threw off my shooting style, I didn't think it drew in "much" more light either.

just my opinion and I am in no way trying to persuade you away from your decision...Happy Hunting...

Next time you are hunting/shooting at dark30 try closing your eyes for a few(5-10) seconds(long enough for your pupils to adjust to no light) and then open them, you will see a considerable bit better for just long enough to make one shot count...

Zachary · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2004, 06:06:40 AM »

Forget about the Elite 4200 WITH THE ILLUMINATED RETICLE. I have this scope - gave it to my brother as a Christmas present. I later found out the reticle is just not bright at all. Plus, the cross-hairs (German #4) are just wayyyy too thick for most US hunting.

I also have the Nikon 3.5x-10x-50mm Illuminated - GREAT Illuminated system. You can switch from green to red, although I just stick with red. I highly recommend it!!

Zachary

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2004, 07:38:34 AM »

Another option to consider would be the Mueller 4-16x50 Sport Dot. The dot works illuminated or dark so battery failure factor doesn't exist. Graybeard has reviewed this scope in the link below.

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=31638

Zachary · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2004, 09:14:02 AM »

After the review was over, I think that GB was thinking about selling it - and at a very good price. You may want to send him a PM and ask him about it.

Zachary

TheOpticZone · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2004, 11:10:25 AM »

I would go with the Nikon Illuminated. I like the dual illumination feature.

Hey Zachary, giving your hand me downs to your brother? :wink:

crackshot · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2004, 11:31:06 AM »

I bought the Mueller from GB last week. Seems to be a very good scope, especially at such a good price. Mounting it on a Rem. 700 SA, 22-250 AI, Douglas #6 SS 1:9 twist, 26" long, in a Rem. factory laminated stock (VLS) that I aluminum pillar and glass bedded. Going to use this combo for shooting any little critters brave enough to stick their little heads out of the grass at up to 1,000 yards (just kidding, more like way less than half of that). Anyhow the next rifle is a factory Sendero SS fluted 26" in 7RSAUM caliber that I am bedding right now in its factory HS stock. Going to use it exclusively for deer and I am going to set my range at 300 yards absolute max. Going to zero at 200 yards, hold dead on at 100 yards and get the dope on 250 and 300 so maybe I won't miss. Now for the scope. Recently talked to John at OZ about the Burris Euro Diamond 3-12x50 illuminated #4. I know this scope is a little heavier than some of the other hunting models, but I love the #4 ill. reticle. No one seems to have looked through a Euro Diamond and I wonder if it is as clear as my Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x44. Also I would like to know how it compares to the Burris FF2 in 3.5x10x50 or the 4.5x14x42, and are the glass coatings different than the Signatures. I have a Sig. 4x16x44 electo-dot on my main 25-06 coyote rifle that I really like, but it is very long and on the heavy side. Too bad I haven't seen a 4-14x50 electro-dot in the Signature line that weighed around 20-22 oz. and was less than 14 in. long, or a Nikon Monarch in and around the same specs.

Zachary · « **Reply #7 on:** August 09, 2004, 11:44:31 AM »

I have a couple of Sendero SS rifles and, if you can drag that anchor around the field, then a heavier scope really won't make that much of a difference.

As for the #4 reticle, for whatever reason, I just hate it. It's just too dang thick for my taste.

Since you are considering the Nikon Monarch ILL, let me tell you that I have the 3.5x-10x-50mm ILL version and it is SWEEEEEEET! I love the illuminated reticle that it has - it's just great and I highly recommend it! In fact, I bought it from Jon at the optic zone about a year or so ago and couldn't be happier with it.

Zachary