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Offline Buster

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« on: August 09, 2004, 05:21:20 PM »
Hey on my 1991A1, I can just wiggle the slide laterally.  No vertical play.
How much slop is normal on a defensive 1911?  When the barrel is locked up I can just detect a smidge of movement when I press down on the hood end.

Don't have another 1911 type to compare to  :cry:

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2004, 05:36:15 PM »
I wouldn't worry about that unless the pistol was inaccurate, and then I'd still check some other things first.  On average, I'd expect to see about .003" side play. So I hate to answer a question with another question, but...."Is the pistol accurate?"  If so, don't lose a second of sleep over it.  In the big scheme of 1911 accuracy, slide fit on the horizontal axis isn't a huge contributor.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2004, 06:19:22 PM »
BamBams is right on. If a 1911 has a properly fitted barrel and bushing, the slide assembly tends to work as a unit (sights are on the slide too). Contrary to popular belief, it really doesn't make much difference if the slide is loose on the frame. I have a perfect example in my safe. It's an old Series 70 Colt with a slide that is loose as a goose but still shoots very tight groups. I installed a new (oversized) barrel and match grade bushing that tightened the top end up like a vault.

As guns wear, the slide-to-frame fit loosens as does the rest of the gun.  People falsely blame a loose slide for accuracy issues because it's something they can see and feel. The areas of a 1911 that will cause accuracy problems when they wear are: Bushing-to-slide, bushing-to-barrel, barrel-to-slide lock lugs, barrel hood-to-breach face lugs, barrel link, barrel link pin, and slide lock shaft. Occasionally a barrel bore will wear out. I have the original barrel from my Series 70. The rifling is so thin you would swear it's a smooth bore.  That's what 50,000 rounds of hard ball does.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2004, 03:08:21 PM »
Well I have only shot it a very little, about 40 rounds, since I bought it used.  Of a bag of lead shot set on my truck toolbox, I was able to hold a 6" group at 30 long steps without too much trouble.   At 15 yards freehand, I had three cloverleaf, two drifting right and high, and one way right and high.  

No feed probs at all.  I was using some very old W.C.C. '72 military hardball.

So I think the pistol is fine and the shooter needs lots of practice! :-D

Thanks for the help.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2004, 04:15:17 PM »
Practice is the best part of all!  Nothing feels more gratifying than being able to take a 1911 and put that bullet wherever you want to! -- usually to the chagrin of the revolver guys.  *smiles*
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2004, 03:38:13 AM »
Buster:  BamBams and the Iowegan aree right on.  I have a couple of real rattlers but they are as accurate as can be.  I look for that sort of lateral movement in a 1911, it helps assure reliability.  And, it sounds like yours is a good, accurate shooter.  Use it and enjoy it.  HTH.  Mikey.

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2004, 04:19:18 AM »
The flip side of this is what happens when you don't have slide play: In cold weather, it will have cycling problems. Mine is a target model and I simply can't use it when the weather drops below about 30 degrees. It requires thin lubricant at anything under about 50 degrees.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2004, 05:01:12 AM »
Very good point Questor!  Too much of a good thing can sometimes spell trouble!
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