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« on: August 09, 2004, 02:18:53 PM »
Well kids Im lookin on the bright side of this..My kid just blew up my hoyt..Cam all hogged up...Limb split..BUT...That means I can git me a newun..YIPPPPIIIIIIIII... Have many choices and options..and NO I DONT WANT A DANG Mathews...Any other suggestions?? I Like bowtech's and I still love Hoyts but Im keepin my options open..I have a backup bow but its just that..A BACKUP...I now have an excuse ta buy me a new one and tha wife caint say NO....well she could but Id do it anyway n take tha heat...Gimmi some good options there boys..I want PERSONAL experiance not a bunch of "facts" from magazines..Notice I put facts in quotes...I know most of all that mag talk is all Hype...Need personal experiance as I dont have but a week ta do this...any longer and Ill miss openin day cause I like to shoot my bows for at least 2 weeks before season starts if somethin like this happens...Not the first time it has and I like to know my bow well before I go to shoot at a deer...Thanks all
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2004, 02:30:39 PM »
I have a PSE Whitetail Extreme. Not the most expensive, but I like it a lot. I shoot it well, and it's all the bow I need. They can keep those $700 Matthews.

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2004, 03:56:25 PM »
Cam..... You gotta stick with the Hoyt man.  These new cam and a halfs shoot like a dream.  The new Viperteks are real nice.  A little shorter of a bow at 31 or 32 inches but a sweet shootin machine at that.  The Razortek I am shootin is as fast as my dads Matthews and is quieter and lighter.  Hoyt has a bow for all your needs.  Bowtechs do shoot really well too though.  Thats what all the guys that work at the pro shop with me shoot.  We sell both Hoyt and Bowtechs and they are all but equal.  I am just a Hoyt fan myself.  You can't go wrong with either.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2004, 03:04:38 AM »
If you are only looking to deer hunt with the bow, then I would suggest a PSE Nova.  You can get the Deer Hunter combo or just buy the bow by itself.  I took my first few deer with a Nova Vector IV.  That bow shot great, it was quiet and very forgiving.  You can get them for less than $200.  The $500 you save by not buying a Hoyt, Mathews, or Bowtech will pay for a lot of venison processing.  I only gave my Nova up because I switched to shooting fingers and it wasn't quite long enough.  
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2004, 06:26:50 AM »
Buy a new Archery Research and put a Whisker Bisquit on it :-D

Just kidding about the WB....

But not about the AR.  I got one about three weeks ago and have shot it pretty extensively since then.  It is fast, quiet and smooth.  Mine is a single "Ram Cam", but they've also got the "Ram and a Half" out.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2004, 05:39:11 PM »
Look at the Parker line of bows.I have a ul31 and i love it!.Was down to the pro shop the other day and another 31 came in [used] ,its comming home to me in a couple weeks.I also have a hoyt and PSE,but the Parker is the one that does it for me.The ezs and other parkers are all great shooters,and the prices arnt to bad eather.They are FAST and can stand up to the best of any other bows.pan.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2004, 11:32:40 AM »
I have 2 Matthews bows. The Legacy and Q2. I Have owned and shot a lot of different bows, but I would never get anything but a Matthews. I also only shoot with  Whisker Bisquits.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2004, 11:58:02 AM »
I agree about the PSE NOVA V-4. It is a very quiet bow and very forgiving. Every time I take my PSE toa 3-d shoot, I get comments on how quiet it is. I'll take quiet over speed anytime. As a matter of fact, the second deer I've taken with abow I missed the first shot, but since it was quiet he only run about ten yds and stopped again. I nailed him the second time. The first time was because the grand slam bowhunter achery tree stand I had the ( from api that I no loner have thank god) the handle got between the cable and the limb. By the way,  summitstands has come out with a revolutionary stand this year. It's called the clear shot. It looks like a strap-on but it is a climber. check it out at summit. I can't understand why any of the tree stand manu. haven't thought of this kind of stand before now.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2004, 12:38:22 PM »
No Matter what anyone tells you the decision will be based on what you shoot best and feels the best to you. Its not like a rifle. A bow must feel right and shoot right.

I have shot dozens of bows before I decided and I ended up with a Mathews Legacy. It just fit and felt the best of any I shot. It has other features that just made it "right" for me.

I too have a Wisker Biscuit "B2" and a no-peep making this the best archery setup I have ever personally owned or shot. I put on Spot hog sights too. I suppose it matters not what brand it is for me because with the Wisker Biscuit and the no-peep I could shoot any bow great. Oh I also splurged and bought the mathews two piece fixed bow quiver. It spaced wide so the arrows are held at the top and close to the fletching the way I like it. It's rock solid and silent too.

You really need to shoot a lot of bows to get it just right. If you already had a Hoyt and liked the fit and grip draw and it felt good getting to the wall for a rock solid hold then maybe you should stick with a Hoyt. Bowtech is also a top choice which I  liked quite well.  I would not trade my Legacy for any bow made right now. But that was my choice based on shooting many different bows.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2004, 12:51:24 PM »
LMAO@ Redhawk,

You know the 2 things i hate the MOST in archery are the wisker's and MATHEWS,,,lol....As far as the PSE Nova goes Im just a little more advanced than they can deliver for me...Sorry Guys I know they will drop a deer most times But I do like the fact that I can shoot with 1 pin from 20 to 35 yards!!! I got my bow fixed FREE OF CHARGE by Hoyt...WOOOOHHHHHOOOOOO I think..lol...Dangit I did want me a new one without the wife all fussy...But anyway..while I was gettin ma bow fixed I took me a lil looksie at the Bowtech black diamond again...DANG that sucker is fast and so dern quiet I had to make shure I shot it...Guess Ill have to find me an excuse to get it...Maybe Ill buy her a nice ring er somethin ta help keep her from gittin all "womany" on me..But for now I got ma sweety back ta shootin bullet holes..New limb package..New cam..n danged if tha lil thang aint 14 fps faster than what it was...Still quiet too...Its now at 311fps...dunno why I want the bowtech bein its "ONLY" 331fps with the exact same arrows and a DROP AWAY REST..lol
Yes I STILL HATE the wisker...Thanks for all the replys folks and my that big bruiser be in the 20 yrd mark for ya
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2004, 03:45:14 PM »
cam69conv, I am glad you got a good laugh. But you make a poor argument about Matthews and wisker's.  :roll: Make's me want to change. (NOT)  LOL............... :-)
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2004, 04:55:07 PM »
Howdy RedHawk,

Never tried makin an argument about Mathews, No need to argue the point that the only thing that Mathews makes in house is thier cams and everything else is farmed out to other factories that use thier pattons on cam tech...Facts are argument enough...If Im gonna pay 650 to 850 for a bare bow Im gonna pay it to a company that has the ability to make all thier parts in house...Simple as that...and as far as the wisker goes..LOL you know my feelins on them  :lol:  To each his own brother...
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2004, 12:44:11 AM »
I'm not sure that getting a Hoyt fixed free of charged is a good thing. My PSE has never had to be fixed in 4 years of constant shooting. I was thinking about a whisker bisquit for next year. Has anyone had any trouble with them tearing off fletchings?

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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2004, 02:07:15 AM »
cam69conv, you are right about to each his own.  :D  As long as we enjoy the sport that is all that matters to me.


daddywpb, I have been shooting the whisker bisquit for 3 years now. The only time I have had the fletchings start coming off, is after numerous shots. I have never had the fletchings tear off completely. I just put a little Fletch tite on them, let them dry and keep shooting. I have never had a fletching get damaged on my arrows I use during hunting.

I can say one think, my sons shooting improved a lot when I switched his bow to the whisker bisquit. We both use releases.   :D
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2004, 04:03:57 AM »
Wisker biscuits have wrecked plenty of fletching for me. Not due to the bristles but rather due to the arrows point of impact causing the second arrow to rip the fletching off the first one in the target! The accuracy I have with the Biscuit is much better then anything I have used in the past. The new B2 Biscuit will not have any effect at all on fletching. When you manually pull an arrow through it,... it's difficult to tell when the fletching is actually coming through the bristles without looking. It will also allow you to draw the bow without any consideration at all of the arrow falling off the rest. Because of this you can focus all your attention on the shot cycle, draw hold aim release.

When AMO did their big Magazine research article a few years ago the number one complaint and concern among archery hunters across North America was the arrow falling from the rest or banging the riser when drawing the bow on game. That can never happen with the biscuit. This means that the Number one complaint has been removed 100% when using the buscuit.

As far as Mathews jobing out manufacturing to others. I see absolutely nothing wrong with delegating the work to the folks who do it best. That is essential to producing the highest performance products in the world today.
My Dodge truck is manufactured by Chrysler and has the highest performance rating and dependability of any 3/4 or 1 ton truck made today. The Engine is made by Cummins Diesel, the drive train is made by American Axel.  Look at GM they have transmissions made by Allison, diesel made by Izuzu, drive lines made by Dana. Fords Diesels are made by International, drive lines by Dana. All use tires and wheels made by others. Boeing manufactures jets with the use of about 1000 other manufacturing facilities around the world, Same with airbus. Neither use engines made by themselves both use GE or Rolls Royce

Dell computers are not made complete in the same facility, nor are any computers by any single manufacturer. Winchester does not produce their wood or synthetic stocks and they have 100% of their ammo produced by others. Same with almost all firearm manufactures.  When a Building is constructed or even a family home several trades are involved to complete the job. The Plumber does not do the roofing, the framer is not doing sheetrock.

I see the fact that production of parts being done by the most skilled craftsman who have the ability to manufacture pieces and parts at high volume under perfect quality control as a great idea and it makes perfect business sense to have parts "jobbed out" as they say. Final assembly and testing of your product is what matters most. That final product has little to do with where or under whose roof it was produced.

Finally the great Ronald Regan one of the most successful Presidents of all time was know as " The great delegator" Because he chose to allow his appointed people to take control of situations that they were most skilled at. Even one of the greatest leaders in the world "jobbed out" responsibility to others! I could see a few logical reasons to avoid the purchase of a product but how production of the parts is arranged is clearly not one I would use as a deal breaker!
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2004, 05:50:08 AM »
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Wisker biscuits have wrecked plenty of fletching for me. Not due to the bristles but rather due to the arrows point of impact causing the second arrow to rip the fletching off the first one in the target! The accuracy I have with the Biscuit is much better then anything I have used in the past. The new B2 Biscuit will not have any effect at all on fletching. When you manually pull an arrow through it,... it's difficult to tell when the fletching is actually coming through the bristles without looking. It will also allow you to draw the bow without any consideration at all of the arrow falling off the rest. Because of this you can focus all your attention on the shot cycle, draw hold aim release.

When AMO did their big Magazine research article a few years ago the number one complaint and concern among archery hunters across North America was the arrow falling from the rest or banging the riser when drawing the bow on game. That can never happen with the biscuit. This means that the Number one complaint has been removed 100% when using the buscuit.

As far as Mathews jobing out manufacturing to others. I see absolutely nothing wrong with delegating the work to the folks who do it best. That is essential to producing the highest performance products in the world today.
My Dodge truck is manufactured by Chrysler and has the highest performance rating and dependability of any 3/4 or 1 ton truck made today. The Engine is made by Cummins Diesel, the drive train is made by American Axel.  Look at GM they have transmissions made by Allison, diesel made by Izuzu, drive lines made by Dana. Fords Diesels are made by International, drive lines by Dana. All use tires and wheels made by others. Boeing manufactures jets with the use of about 1000 other manufacturing facilities around the world, Same with airbus. Neither use engines made by themselves both use GE or Rolls Royce

Dell computers are not made complete in the same facility, nor are any computers by any single manufacturer. Winchester does not produce their wood or synthetic stocks and they have 100% of their ammo produced by others. Same with almost all firearm manufactures.  When a Building is constructed or even a family home several trades are involved to complete the job. The Plumber does not do the roofing, the framer is not doing sheetrock.

I see the fact that production of parts being done by the most skilled craftsman who have the ability to manufacture pieces and parts at high volume under perfect quality control as a great idea and it makes perfect business sense to have parts "jobbed out" as they say. Final assembly and testing of your product is what matters most. That final product has little to do with where or under whose roof it was produced.

Finally the great Ronald Regan one of the most successful Presidents of all time was know as " The great delegator" Because he chose to allow his appointed people to take control of situations that they were most skilled at. Even one of the greatest leaders in the world "jobbed out" responsibility to others! I could see a few logical reasons to avoid the purchase of a product but how production of the parts is arranged is clearly not one I would use as a deal breaker!


Great post. :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  I have to agree with you on the accuracy. I have a problem removing my arrows from my target also, they are to close together. Another draw back is I have to replace my nocks also. LOL  :D  I have never shot with such accuracy. Hate them if you want but Wisker biscuits work.
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