What are some good newbie calls for coyotes?

[aimless]

I got the "Coming to the Call" Dvd last year and got fired up to varmit hunt but never did it. I'm trying to get a jump on this year. We have a fairly long varmit season in NY so I am looking forward to more rifle hunting than the 2-3 deer I can legally harvest.

I have a hunting partner that is interested also and he has coyotes on his land and we have AR15s (and other rifles) but the calls are what I need some advice on as neither of us has hunted coyotes before. I really don't want to spend $ 500 (who does) any suggestions as to economical quality calls or are they all pretty much the same darn thing and just get whatever you can find reasonable off the shelf at Bass Pro or mail order from Cabelas? Idon't want to waste money on junk either v. getting something good the first time.

[Wlscott]

For beginners, I like to suggest any of the calls that have an enclosed metal reed in them.  They are easy to blow, and you can get good sounds out of them right off the bat.  These calls can be found at any store that sells sporting goods/hunting equipment.  Wal Mart ususally has them.  They are usually in the ten to fifteen dollar range.

Open reed calls like the Tally Ho, or the Tweety are my favorite.  They do take a little more practice to get the hang of though.  I order mine from Lock Stock and Barrel, and I think it cost around six dollars the last time I ordered one.

[varmit_master]

Hi Look at a FOX PRO they are high but they are worth it i am going to order one soon with 32 sounds and the remote VM

[MF]

Get a Sceery AP-6 mouth call. They are easy to learn how to use and inexpensive to boot. You don't need an electronic caller to bring in a coyote. Any rabbit in distress call is like ringing the dinner bell to a coyote! Mike

[Glanceblamm]

Agree with Wlscott

Also is a good deal that you own a video. Will give you a good idea of what a closed reed squaller is suppose to sound like. Call from your diaphram and play the part of that injured animal.

[oso45-70]

Aimless,
One of the things you need to consider is the weather, If is cold enough to freeze you will have a problem with your cloased reed freezing up. Just make sure you keep it warm when you are not calling. With the open reed call theres not much chance of them freezing up but it can happen. With the open reed you can get a lot of differebt sounds. With some practice you can sound like coyote pups calling from the den, You can also make a good challenge call when you go into a new area. you might look at foxpro
they have some reasonable prices on some of their calls, hope this helps
good luck..........Joe........

[Ladobe]

Lots of good suggestions already, but I'll tyoss some more out.

IMO, everyone new to predator calling owes it to himself to first learn how to use and score with mouth calls.   Any predator taken this way will be your biggest trophy because you pitted your ability against his instead of just playing somebody elses electronic sound.   Adding to the challenge, the predator will focus on you when he comes in (source of sound) instead of a distant speaker (more trickery) forcing you to learn what motionless really means and to use camo effectively.   There are several easy to learn enclosed reeed calls out there - and cheap.   And as said, the Scerry AP6 is a good and versatile call, so are the Circe if you can find one or an old Weems.   When you're ready to dive into the open reed calls, again as said, the Tally Ho is a pretty good one, so are the Charleton's... and again real cheap.   Once you take this steep, you'll go from imitating a distressed prey animal/bird with an enclosed reeed (mostly) to doing almost every kind of prey, howls, barks, yips, etc. with just this one call.   Next step would be a diaphram I guess, and they are probably the hardest unless you have already been using them for other game calling (trkey, elk, etc).   But do yourself a favor and leave the electronic dodads until you've mastered the others.   You'll get a lot more out of PC, believe me.

HTH

Ladobe  :bye:
WildCalls2K

[Redfrog]

I like the open reed calls. they don't freeze up in the cold and they are very versatile. The Sceery bite calls AP6 and the Ap7 are good and work well. I also use cowhorn howlers and fawn distress calls I make from antler.








The first pic shows the Sceery AP6. Obviously it works

For Electronic callers, Foxpro.

[SD Handgunner]

In the last 10 years or so I have tried quite a few different mouth calls, and built several different home made electronic callers.

For some reason I seem to have better success with mouth calls. Not really sure WHY, but I do. Maybe it has something to do with the electronic callers sounding exactly the same every time.

In all of the mouth calls I have used the Sceery AP3 is by far the easiest to use, and is my go to call. However in cold weather like all closed reed calls it will freeze up on you. For this reason I have also aquired a Sceery AP7 Open Reed Predator Call. This call also works quite well, but takes more practice to keep proficient with it.

I also have an old Lohman/Circe 3 way adjustable predator call that works quite well also. I've tried a Talley Ho, and finally gave up on it.

As for howlers I mainly use the Crit-r-Call Song Dog. However I also have an old Woodswise Howler that I remade by adding a megaphone and a different reed.

When it comes to mouth calls you'll like try several before you find the one that works best for you. Just practice and remember it is not the sound you make that will call coyotes, but rather when and where you make that sound.

SD Handgunner

[Wlscott]

Another great call that I always have with me is the Sceery Cow Elk Call.  

I found out that this call works good for a predator call while I was hunting elk in Colorado last year.  I tripped and busted my butt with the call in my mouth :eek: .  When I hit the ground, I made a perfect pup squeal with the cow elk call :oops:

It will also make a good cotton tail distress call.

I don't like electronic calls.  I've hunted with guys who use them though.  It just seems  more exciting when you call in a pair of dogs with a call that you manipulated yourself.  Plus, electronic calls always sound exactly the same.  You can vary mouth calls and make them sound different.  

I have a calling partner that has many of the same calls that I have.  His Tally Ho sounds completely different than mine does.  That's just differences in how we work our calls.  That adds variablilty to your sets.  

I don't care what anyone says, coyotes are very smart animals.  If you use the same sounds in all of your sets, they're going to get smart to your game very quickly.

[Huntinbull]

I have a favorite that seems to be different than most of these here. I LOVE the Johnny Stewart pc3. It is a very versatile call that makes noises from a howl to a mouse squeak. Easy to learn and use. Costs about $10
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Huntinbull