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Offline sand draw JAKE

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« on: September 08, 2004, 05:05:51 PM »
I have reloaded for some years, but never for the longer straight[ish] cases, such as the 444, or the 45-70. My question is do you have to full length size this type of case, or can they be neck sized as I do with my 30-30? The cases would be used in the same gun they were originally shot in.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2004, 05:17:43 PM »
I have been reloading the 45-70 for 27 years and began neck sizing in about 1992.  I use the Lyman 45 caliber neck die.  One can also use a full length sizing die to partially size the case.

http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/466760

I also pulled the neck die expander button and use a Lyman 'M' die.

http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/482184
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2004, 05:55:58 PM »
I neck size cases for single-shot rifles that I primarily shoot from the bench. I'd full-length size cases for a lever action used in the hunting fields.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2004, 01:30:14 PM »
If the cases were fired in the chamber that they will be reloaded for, by all means neck size only on straight walled rounds. Full length sizing is a waste of time and unneeded wear on the brass.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2004, 01:39:39 AM »
It probably won't work with smokeless, but when loading Black I don't size at all and thumb seat the bullets, crimping only enough to hold the bullet in place.  That's after the powder in compressed, of course.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2004, 08:32:26 AM »
Several people have recommended neck sizing brass in reloading for the lever action 45-70, so I bought a Lyman neck-sizing die for that caliber, neck sized some previously-fired brass, made up some rounds for my Marlin 1895 with three different powders and took them to the range. (As I do with all my reloads, these were also expanded at the mouth with an expander die to help with the seating operation, and then they were crimped with the Lee Factory Crimp Die.)

I noticed two things:

(1) In this preliminary test, my five-shot groups shrank by about 1/2" at 100 yards.

(2) I had some minor feeding problems. The brass was definitely stickier in closing the action, and also extraction was stickier. It felt as if the cartridge was "catching" on something both in chambering the rounds and in extracting them. I could always chamber and extract the ammo just by using a bit more force, except in one instance. That one round stuck going into the chamber, and would not go in. I extracted it, and then tried again, and it chambered without much resistance the second time. (Maybe it was rotated and oriented differently the second time.)

I gather this is why I keep reading that cases should be full-length sized for lever action rifles. Do the folks who neck-size their 45-70 ammo experience the same problem with lever actions? Is there a solution?