The Russian pain.

[ironglow]

Ditto to that, Graybeard...

[Big Hext Finnigan]

Howdy again,

The segundo was named Steve Schneider.  If you can hear some of the tapes, you will hear Koresh start to back down, only to have Schneider hold the line.  Waco was a very complicated and tragic tale.. much about the failings of both sides.

Weaver.. pure D government villiany.  There is no defense and the stonewalling and lack of oversight on the part of the Feds was a watershed event for me.  

Take care..

[powderman]

GRAYBEARD. You are right about ruby ridge for sure. That and waco should never have happened. I believe you are right about the screen width too. Those wide urls are the pits. POWDERMAN.

[RIFLERANGER]

Funny how a Muslim bastard actually had the balls to blame, you guessed it, Israel for the terrorist attack in Russia.  Will some of them stop at nothing to make Israel look bad, or at the very least, hide the fact, brought up by a brilliant Muslim scholar, if there is such a thing, who correctly noted that sadly, ALL of the worlds terrorists are Muslim.
Now if that doesn't speak for itself........
As far as One world UN anything, I sum it up best with:
"FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS"
I have had the same visions as GB with what our future holds, and it ain't pretty.
The thing that must happen is for ALL gun owners to band together.  We need the militias back and it needs to happen NOW.

Ranger

[Georgian]

I too, pray that anything like the UN World Domination thing doesnt go down. I dont know what I'd do.  I know I'd have to stay alive and survive. But I think the government would possibly make isolated incidents, etc. So that they wouldnt have to deal with everything at once. I have to tell ya, once the Consitution is thrown away, I will then know that that is the time to lock and load, and prepare for battle. I've heard that UN domination thing before, but is there anything that shows its leading to that? Any info?

[Big Hext Finnigan]

Did Kerry's constant reference to Bush not being qualified to be "President of the World" tell you anything?

The UN is like a bunch of spoiled relatives who have lived off one rich uncle, Uncle Sam.  We need to let them see how the real world works.

Adios,

[powderman]

Just 2 weeks after bj bill took office the first time he appointed a committee to work with the UN to find the easiest and most efficient way to disarm the American people, for our own good of course. Hanoi john supports this one world order crappola. When the UN drug it's feet on iraq, president Bush basicly told them to either help, or get the hell out of the way. My kind of guy. POWDERMAN.        

[Arkie-06]

To me what is really frightning  is a scenario of  former  President Clinton as head of the United Nations and  you know who as President of the United States. :shock:

[CharlieinKansas]

I tend to think somewhere in the twisted and perverted minds of our then present power hungry tyrants ( am I being to harsh and blunt? ) that what they did at "RUBY RIDGE" & "WACO"  was a test to see how the people of this nation would react to government terrorism against thier own people. We should have been up and in thier faces about these acts of blatant anti-constitutionalism. But I think both of these tests spoke volumes to them that we as a sovereign nation are willing to lay down and take what they dish out, be it our right to practice our chosen faith and our freedom.

   What will we actually do when the blue hats start marching in our streets and in our neighborhoods. We cannot fight effectively as individuals. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!!!

[RIFLERANGER]

Blue Helmets make great targets !!!

Ranger

[DPRinks]

I have a very hard time wasteing any tears over a person who was a sex maniac and could not even keep his d--- in his pants when it came to 10-11 year old girls, sorry, just not my type, actually a person I would enjoy seeing BBQed.
Donald Rinks

[magooch]

I have a very hard time wasteing any tears over a person who was a sex maniac and could not even keep his d--- in his pants when it came to 10-11 year old girls, sorry, just not my type, actually a person I would enjoy seeing BBQed.
Donald Rinks

Did you also enjoy seeing all the women and kids bbqed along with the sex maniac?

[Robert C.]

I have a very hard time wasteing any tears over a person who was a sex maniac and could not even keep his d--- in his pants when it came to 10-11 year old girls, sorry, just not my type, actually a person I would enjoy seeing BBQed.
Donald Rinks

And do you have "proof" that Koresh actually did this?

What happened to innocent until proven guilty??

[powderman]

ROBERT C. Relying solely on memory, I remember testimony from the survivors about koreshes sexual escapades. He took girls as young as 11 and 12 for his own pleasure. Numerous testimonies also said that koresh claimed to be the messiah and that he and he alone could have sex with any of the women there that he chose. The husbands were forbidden to have sex with their own wives, that pleasure was reserved for him. Those people died needlessly, koresh could have been taken many times without endangering anyone but himself, but the govt chose not to. They instead pressed a bad situation and the end result was the deaths of a lot of people. Koresh, and others like him, prey on confused, down and out people who are desperately looking for some sense of belonging. Oh well, I won't get into that any more. Suffice it to say that in my opinion, there was more than enough evidence to show that koresh was a real nut case and clearly should have been removed from office so to speak. POWDERMAN.  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)