Author Topic: 10/22 stove-piping. (Read 812 times)

JS44 · « **on:** October 03, 2004, 01:25:37 PM »

It's a stock 10/22 deluxe sporter. What's happening is that about once every 10 rounds or so I'll get a stove-pipe. The new round will go in most of the way but the empty holds the bolt open. Not a chambering problem. This is with any ammo I use. Today it was Wal-Mart's Federal bulk pack, Aguila SE, and Federal Lightning. This is typical of the ammo I use and this rifle DID NOT always have this problem. The last time I shot it and it acted up I took it apart, even took the barrel off, and scrubbed everything good. I couldn't find any burrs in the metal or anything. I got a new magazine for it too but that didnt help. The gun is always put away with the mag empty, bolt closed, and the hammer dry fired to relieve tension. Nothing has changed in the ammo or the way this gun is maintained from when it cycled like it should and now.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
JS

Patriot_1776 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2004, 02:10:19 PM »

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What's happening is that about once every 10 rounds or so I'll get a stove-pipe.

That explains alot to me. As you stated that you tried cleaning and scrubbing everything, but it still happens. It may not occur when it is clean, but after 10 or so fouling shots. The thing I would do next, is check the extractor. I think I understand what you are saying... About how many rounds have you put through it? My speculation would be the extractor is not grabbing sufficiently enough to extract the empty shell. Or, if it has anything more to do with the extractor, the return spring on the extractor may also be weak. This would cause the extractor hook to jump the shell's rim. And due to the fouling, it will only complicate the matter. But, others may have better advice than myself. I don't have any experience with that particular gun. If I were to hunt with a RF, I would stick with a bolt action all the way. But in my opinion though, there is nothing more fun than a 22 semi-auto for plinkin'. Take care, and I hope you will be rid of this problem.

Patriot

KN · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2004, 12:16:12 PM »

I don't have a lot of experience with the 10-22, although I do have one. But if the next round is already loading in the chamber and the action is closing on the empty I would look to the ejector rather than the extractor. It seems the round is pulled out or the next one would not come out of the mag. Seems like its not being kicked out like it should. KN

JS44 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2004, 02:26:47 PM »

The extractor IS pulling the empty clear of the chamber. The ejector looks okay. Not bent or worn. I don't know how many rounds I've put through this rifle but I've had it since 1996. A wild guess would be under 5000 rounds. Not much for a halfway decent .22.
One thing I forgot to mention is that when I was shooting it and I'd get a stove-pipe I'd pull the empty out without having to pull the bolt back then try to fire it. NOTHING would happen because the hammer, for whatever reason, was NOT cocked. I'd have to pull it back just far enough to feel it re-cock without ejecting the live round in the chamber. It's as if the hammer is following the bolt back into battery like some semi-auto pistols do with a sear problem. If the bolt were short-stroking I don't think it would be abble to pick up the next round off the top of the magazine or pull the empty out of the chamber like it does do. I just now took the trigger group out and I cannnot get duplicate this problem by cocking the hammer back with my thumb. The sear always catches it.
Thanks for your input.
JS

Flash · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2004, 12:34:44 PM »

Try buying a new magazine. The issue might be a feed problem and not an ejection problem at all.

JS44 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2004, 02:12:59 PM »

Thanks. I forgot to mention it the first time but I am using a new mag. The last one worked until I took it apart and didnt put it back together right. I've also posted this question over at rimfirecentral.com. The feeling over there is the extractor needs to be replaced and the ammo isn't potent enough. The ammo worked fine before but I will get another extractor for it. Even if that's not the problem a better aftermarked one won't hurt.
Thanks.
JS

hylander · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2004, 04:10:58 PM »

Replace the Extracter with a Volquartson Extracter $10.oo
The factory ones do not grip the case proper and the return spring's are weak.
I had the exact same problem, now the only time it act's up is when the mag. needs cleaning and that is about every couple hundred rounds.

bgjohn · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2004, 05:17:39 AM »

If the gun isn't getting cocked the bolt isn't getting blown back hard enough. I know Aguila SE is standard velocity stuff. I don't know about the rest. It seems to me the extracter is probably ok since the empty is pulled from the chamber. It sound like the bolt didn't blow back far enough for the fired case to contact the ejector. Switch to hi-velocity ammo and rty again.
JM

TOGO · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2004, 08:28:14 PM »

The only thing that comes to mind, is possible lead build up or a burr in the chamber itself, once fired the case expands in the chamber catching on the burr and hanging up momentarily when extracted.