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Offline Jay HHI6818

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« on: September 08, 2004, 03:57:37 PM »
I bought a used FA 44 Mag. Silhouette Model 3 years ago and the fellow I bought it from sent along two loads that he used for silhouette. I used the one that he said he had shot a few 40's with. I didn't have a scope base for the FA so I just used that load. I have shot a few 30's-35's with it. A friend loaned me his scope base and I'm wondering how accurate FA's are. The other day I fired 7 shots at 100 yds and the group measured 2.5 inches. If I toss the 2 worst shots then 5 shots went 1.75 inches. Not sure if I can work up any better load than this. I'm using H4227 and there is a lot of residue left in the cases after firing.

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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2004, 12:17:06 AM »
Just a note, I have always found that 4227 and 2400 leave residue after firing. If the load is shooting as you say it is would not concern myself with the residue.

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2004, 12:36:01 AM »
I have a couple of different loads using WW296 that when I am doing my part, will go five shots for five under 1.5" at 100 yards.  The revolver is currently wearing a 2-6X Bushnell scope.

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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2004, 10:59:27 AM »
Question for  45 WLN,
What brand of primers are you using. I'm using the Winchester WLP and think I'll try a Federal Mag primer. This load shoots great if I do my part. We shoot at big bore chickens set at 200 meters for shoot off targets. The best I have done is 6 out of 10 with open sights. The chicken measures about 6 inches in diameter!!! Just don't like all of the residue. When I empty the MTM ammo box and turn it upside down there is about a 1/2 a teaspoonful of sand that falls out.

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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 03:57:20 PM »
I second the prior post.  Try a different primer.  See if that helps.  Also might check your crimp.  I lightly taper crimp then roll crimp.  That might help you also.

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2004, 04:34:18 PM »
I seat the bullet and then I use a Redding Profile Crimp Die.

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2004, 04:52:16 PM »
At the risk of fooling with a load that seems to be shooting just fine, try belling the case mouth with a .44 mag expanding die and increasing the neck tension on the bullets.  The WLPs are plenty hot enough to fire the load off.  Sounds like the bullet is leaving the case prior to getting a complete burn and having the case hang onto it just a bit more may clear up your residue problem.

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2004, 07:44:46 AM »
Quote from: MS Hitman
At the risk of fooling with a load that seems to be shooting just fine, try belling the case mouth with a .44 mag expanding die and increasing the neck tension on the bullets.  The WLPs are plenty hot enough to fire the load off.  Sounds like the bullet is leaving the case prior to getting a complete burn and having the case hang onto it just a bit more may clear up your residue problem.


I agree with MS. Bell the case just enough to allow the bullet to be started, there should be a viasble bump in the case when the bullets is seated,(you can tell how far the bullet extends into the capacity by examing the case with the bullet seated ie, case tension. Next I prefer a roll criimp. Measure your round prior to crimping then apply enough crimp to seat the bullet another .002. This method keeps my 475 loads from any creep and should be adaquite in your 44. I use WLP in 45 and 475 with no ignition problems. I use 4227 and h110 in both of these cartridges. H110 does not leave residue but the 4227 always leaves some.

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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2004, 11:27:30 PM »
imr 4227 seems to burn a little cleaner then h4227 for me.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2004, 01:40:20 AM »
i was working up  270 loads once upon a time and had some real problems with unburnt powder, and hence attaining velocity desired.  i was using winchester primers.  i tried everything, switched powder, tighter crimp, you name it.  finally i bought some cci primers and instantly got a clean burn AND desired velocity.   primers can make a world of difference.   i use cci (given my experience), but that isnt the point.  if one brand isnt giving you what you want, try another.  it is a variable that needs to be eliminated.