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Offline Tad Houston

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« on: October 20, 2004, 05:37:12 AM »
OK, i've got to get a 375 Jones. The Question i have is will the factory super 14 4 hole mount with a standard weaver hold up to recoil? I would like to get the custom shop with 6 hole mount and the t'sob, but i will pay almost twice as much. Does any one here have a factory super 14 with a weaver, and how is accuracy? Another mount option for the factory barrel would be the redfield  super magnum proof base- any comments on these?  Thanks- Tad  :D

One more thing- to brake or not to brake?

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 06:07:56 AM »
Recoil is pretty heavy w/ 270 gr bullets in mine even w/ the brake.   I'm not a fan of muzzle brakes, but in some guns it makes sense.  This is one of those guns.  My opinion would be to go to SSK Ind. and have them make you one with the T'SOB full rib mount.  It will be a beautiful barrel, and almost certainly of better quality than factory 375.

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 12:06:54 PM »
Suggest going with the barrel that fits your budget.   If that's the factory offering, you can always get a local smith to D&T a couple more holes for a 6 screw steel base, probably for no more than a sawbuck or two.   You'd save hundreds on the barrel over custom (and cheaper than buying a TC CS just for the 6 screw base at least).   I'd go 3 rings when mounting a scope, and the scope is another choice that you have to make.  Few of them will stand up to the 375, at least for very long.

If you do go the SSK barrels, I can highly recommend them after having owned a bunch of them (still do).   JD makes a very fine product and gets most of my business when it comes to the bigger thumpers.   But I'd ventue to guess the factory barrels will shoot well enough to fill the average hunting needs of anyone who's on a budget and doesn't really need to go custom.   Wanting custom is another thing.   But pride of ownership in something "custom" to show off to your pards comes at a steep price.

My first SSK 375JDJ was a 14" chrome moly with no brake, had just a Weaver base (6 screw) and 3 rings, old discontinued Tasco Pro Class 30mm 1.5-4X.   I only shot full load 270 and 300 gr. pills in it, lots of them, and the mounts and scope took it just fine.   Current tab for a bare barrel like this from SSK is about $350 (in line with a TC CS, and a match grade Shilen barrel to boot?).

I worked my may up over the years, so #4 375JDJ is a top drawer SSK stainless with full length vent rib, magnaported and currently carries a "starting" price of just under $600 just for the barrel new from JD.   Warne steel rings and another Tasco Pro Class 30mm 6X, both in stainless, stainless frame and Pachy's make up the rest of this neat toy (and I am lucky enough to have matching barrels in 257, 6.5 and 309 JDJ's to go with it).   No critters anywhere that I couldn't hunt when I take this case along.   :wink:

Anyway, just go with what works for you and start enjoying your 375.   They are lots of fun to plink and hunt with for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 06:47:20 AM »
E.A. Brown makes a nice base simular to the T'SOB with 3 rings.  I picked up one for my 309 JDJ and it works just fine.  I don't know if they still carry it but it was about $50.
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The vent rib does look classy..
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 01:03:58 PM »
but is it also functional? I know why it is functional on my shotguns...

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I worked my may up over the years, so #4 375JDJ is a top drawer SSK stainless with full length vent rib, magnaported...



Thanks, Ed

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Re: The vent rib does look classy..
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2004, 07:34:10 PM »
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I worked my may up over the years, so #4 375JDJ is a top drawer SSK stainless with full length vent rib, magnaported...


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but is it also functional? I know why it is functional on my shotguns...
Thanks, Ed


Hi Ed,

I'm guessing you are asking if the full length rib is funcitonal.   Just for show as far as I am concerned is my best anwswer I guess.   That's why I bought the 4 from ya - already had 3 of the four calibers of SSK JDJ's without the ribs but wanted to go all the way for a stainless set.   Some might say it helps with barrel cooling, but even though I've done 200 shot range sessions with the 375's I've never over heated a barrel yet, so a mute point as far as I am concerned.   They were fun trying to use those SSK rings on though.   Nothing but scopes with small objective lenses would clear the rib and so had to go elsewhere for rings to get the scopes mounted.

BTW, every one I've talked to has had brass bulging problems with the M2 barrels that came from you.   I already talked to Tim about it and they did some testing at the factory.   Tim called me back, had the same thing show up on their barrels with same 2 ammo's.    He  decided it may not be a problem but we are all keeping on eye on it.   Just FYI if you hadn't heard.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2004, 02:47:26 AM »
:eek: ED........ :? ........"the ed"?........of ed's contenders!

 8)  posted lists of availabe contender, and encore barrels in stock would up the sales, i bet. :wink:

 :roll:  not in new hampshire...........i don't reckon :(
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2004, 07:57:21 PM »
Hey K....

Just assumed since i just talked to him recently as well as Tim at the factory.   And he is famous for using alias nicks on-line, so figured he had one at the factory.   Yeah I know where he is... over the years a lot of $$$ have been sent to him from yours truely.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2004, 02:50:30 AM »
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:eek: ED........ :? ........"the ed"?........of ed's contenders!

 


No, just another Ed who likes TCs! and who has also purchased from Ed of Ed's TCs  :D

Yes, the question was pertaining to the rib and I agree it looks cool. Not surprising it doesn't help in scope mounting though.

Ed

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2004, 05:19:32 AM »
Hey Tad,
My experience with the .375 JDJ has really been ok.  I have a Burris 2.5x7 Posi loc scope mounted on a weaver 4 screw base and a set of Weaver 4x4 rings.  The only problem I had was that the posi lock blew off the side of my scope the other day.  It made me mad because I bought this expensive scope for the reason of the posi loc for hand cannons.  The company said the posi loc unit housing stripped out.  I am waiting for it's return.

I shoot a 220 Hornaday bullet using 48 grains of IMR 4895.  It shoots very well and is perfect for anything on the North American contenent.  I have not loaded up any heavier bullets yet.  As of now I see no reason to do so.   :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2004, 03:43:54 PM »
I bought the 235 gr. speer hot cores- they were 1/2 the price! I am wondering if the are made for higher velocities in the H & H? They will probably work fine in the 14" 375 JDJ.

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2004, 05:47:29 AM »
I was wondering how the recoil of the 375 JDJ compares to my 17"   45-70 ?

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2004, 12:13:55 PM »
Recoil???----Depends on the load,barrel length,  port or muzzle brake, and which frame----assuming max loads for the three most common bullet weights---220, 270, and 300 gr, all are stout, and as you might guess, the lighter bullets kick the least. My barrel is Magnaported and I just load the 270gr Hornaday SP's---now on a G2 frame ----If I put the barrel back on the original Contender frame---recoil is stiffer. ---On an Encore with a muzzle tamer barrel like one of my buddies uses, it is softer. Don't worry, It won't hurt you--- :P  pg
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2004, 01:31:07 PM »
Just got back from shooting my new 375 JDJ- factory barrel with factory sights- recoil was very stiff. What a BLAST though! Worth the pain. Mainly the pain was in the web of my hand from the skin gripping the pachmayr rubber. I have never shot a 45/70 handgun, so i cannot compare. I let my buddy shoot it and told him not to grip it too tight, just let it recoil, and it almost kissed him on the face! I guess you gotta grip it pretty good, but let it recoil. :D

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2004, 06:12:36 PM »
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Hey Tad,
My experience with the .375 JDJ has really been ok.  I have a Burris 2.5x7 Posi loc scope mounted on a weaver 4 screw base and a set of Weaver 4x4 rings.  The only problem I had was that the posi lock blew off the side of my scope the other day.  It made me mad because I bought this expensive scope for the reason of the posi loc for hand cannons.  The company said the posi loc unit housing stripped out.  I am waiting for it's return.

I shoot a 220 Hornaday bullet using 48 grains of IMR 4895.  It shoots very well and is perfect for anything on the North American contenent.  I have not loaded up any heavier bullets yet.  As of now I see no reason to do so.   :wink:


Got away for years with Burris 2-7's (not posi loc - discontinued 200293's) on some of my medium handcannons (6.5 Super Bower, 309JDJ, etc) but only use the old discontinued Tasco Pro Class 30mm jobs on my 375JDJ's.   The 1.5-4X, 4X and 6X continue on after a lot of rounds through the 4 different 375 barrels I've had.   I shoot the 270 and 300 grain pills, and always near the top - they haven't hurt these scopes.   Current (last) 375JDJ wears a 6X, and since I have 5 more of these scopes for backup, I think I am covered.   :wink:

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