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Offline crazyjjk

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« on: November 03, 2004, 06:03:02 AM »
Personally I believe we need a strong Democratic Party. Hopefully the Republican wins in the Senate, House and President races will send a clear message to the Democratic Party. A message to purge the Micheal Moores, Ted Kennedys , George Soros ect. Give America a party that is not far off in left field but more mainstream America.
Hopefully this is a good day for true Democrats in hoping to rid the party of those far left special interest turds who have hijacked it. America needs a strong Democratic (2nd party). It doesn't need what the Democratic Party has become. The Democratic Party was sent a message. Will they heed it?

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2004, 07:42:09 AM »
What is very clear is that both parties need each other. The true test of W's legacy will be how well he can build concensus and reach out to the Democrats with the most logical ideas on domestic and foreign policy. The absolute worst thing he can do is charge headlong ahead with a "mandate" for the right-wing agenda. It may work in the short run, but in the end it will do nothing but further polarize the American people and weaken the Republican party.

Bush has the opportunity to do some very unique things that have never before been done in government. Because the White House, Senate, and House are all controlled by the Republicans, and yet the nation is as divided as ever, the door is open for Bush to take the most workable plans of both parties and develop them in bipartisan fashion into a powerful and popular domestic agenda. He must be willing to compromise in non-critical areas to gain broad support of the most important issues. Not an easy task, but one for which Bush is, thankfully, particularly well-suited if he chooses this route.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2004, 07:52:52 AM »
I agree with crazyjjk.  The Democratic party of our parents and grandparents
isn't the Democratic party of today.  They use to represent the working people but now it appears to be a coalition of various far left groups which each have an agenda of their own.  They have lost touch with the vast majority of the people.  They try to portray the Republicans as for the rich and the fat cats but the Republicans appear to speak the language of the middle class and support the things most of middle America does.

I to would like the Democratic party to go back to their roots and abandon the far left causes that turn those of us in middle America off.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2004, 09:17:58 AM »
I don't believe the Dem's will ever return to the way they used to be, they have been completly taken over from the far left  and they will never return . I think Zell Miller is one of the last true Democrats out there. He  is a good man. I just pray that conservitive valeues will continue to grow in our  country, because this election was too close for comfort, yes, "W" won the election, and that's great, he is the best man for the job. But like John Kerry said this morning in his consession speech, and he speaks for the demcratic party,  they will not give up their ideals and they will continue to fight for them. And they will continue to chip away at the conservitves and our ideals that have made this country what it is today. :cry:
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2004, 10:29:47 AM »
Quote from: Arkie-06
I don't believe the Dem's will ever return to the way they used to be, they have been completly taken over from the far left  and they will never return . I think Zell Miller is one of the last true Democrats out there. He  is a good man. I just pray that conservitive valeues will continue to grow in our  country, because this election was too close for comfort, yes, "W" won the election, and that's great, he is the best man for the job. But like John Kerry said this morning in his consession speech, and he speaks for the demcratic party,  they will not give up their ideals and they will continue to fight for them. And they will continue to chip away at the conservitves and our ideals that have made this country what it is today. :cry:


Unfortunately, I agree. The Democratic Party was taken over by the Socialists. Look up the "Progressive Democratic Caucus" and note their ideals are socialist and their members are some of the heavyweights of the Democratic Party and some of their biggest nannies and fem-men. This caucus is the steering wheel of the current party.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2004, 11:30:54 AM »
People are not as dumb as they sometimes seem.  Indeed, the Democrats should take heed of what this election should tell them.  With the exception of the Bill Clinton years -- I still don't know how we elected him twice (actually, Ross Perot tells you how Clinton was elected the first time, maybe the second time some dirty tricks took place in one or more key states which Clinton won by the skin of his teeth in 1996) -- we are now into 5 consecutive Republican presidencies.  If you take a long view of things, back to Lyndon Johnson, it becomes apparent that Democrats have a problem in the presidency.

Why do the Democrats have to programmatically be anti-gun?  Why do the Democrats have to be radically pro-gay (civil unions provide the escape clause for gays, they don't need same sex marriage, same sex marriage is a radical activist's cause)?  Why do the Democrats have to be anti-military?  As one poster suggested, why can't the Democrats honestly represent the concerns of the worker?

Well, for whatever reason they do not, and thus they are condemned to lose national elections.

I agree it would be better to have a real alternative to a republican other than a rabidly anti-gun, rabidly anti-defense, super liberal, social engineering tax/spend artist.

I also agree it would be good to try to build concensus and seek cooperation in the important work of governing, but I don't think it will happen.  The Democratic politicians are about gaining and keeping office (as may be the Republicans, the Democrats don't have a corner on self-interest and ambition), and that objective may not be well served by following the guidance of a Republican president and accommodating him in accomplishing good works.  Better, perhaps, to obstruct and sabotage the good works of a Republican president and then blame him in the next election.  Statesmanship and duty to the good of the nation are not common character traits in our politicians, I'm afraid, at least not among the Democrats.

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2004, 08:01:46 PM »
I am confused.  What do you mean by 5 consecutive Republican precidencies?
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2004, 12:11:07 AM »
I am not a trusting person when it comes to the Republican party.
I think it will be very hard for all persons (congress, president) connected to the party to stand aloof and independent of the controls of the powers behind the throne.
I can only hope that I am wrong, but, history does not support such thought.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2004, 04:35:13 AM »
I think if the Democrats don't move from the left to the center they are going to have a hard road. 3 million more popular votes is not a narrow margin. Kerry was defeated without question. Daschel was defeated. Gay marriages were defeated. And hopefully our enemies will learn from this election that they can no longer intimidate our votes and that we're coming to get you, assertively. We're Americans, not a member state of the UN. I find it comforting to have a President that  says "bring it" to terrorists instead of "stop it".

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2004, 04:46:04 AM »
They lost Monyhan,Breax and will loose Zell Miller and keep Lieberman,these are the true Democrats and they are a small minority.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2004, 06:05:08 AM »
It would be a true blessing for everyone if the true liberals would break and form a socialist party. It would be good even for them-then they could espouse a true platform, much as the libertarians.
I think the Libertarians will eventually grow in stature to become a party which can swing some weight and cause some rep/dem swing in policy more towards the middle.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2004, 04:28:44 PM »
I dont think the  TRUE DEMOCRAT'S  will ever get there party out of the clutches of those nut case wacko's that seem to have controll of it now.
That party has become the home of every halfbaked wack job in this country it seem's.
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