Author Topic: TAXES  (Read 457 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline IntrepidWizard

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1130
TAXES
« on: November 05, 2004, 05:55:05 AM »
Sometimes politicians can exclaim; "It's just a tax cut for the rich!",
and  it is just accepted to be fact.
But what does that really mean? Just in case you are not completely
clear on this issue, we hope the following will help.
 
Tax Cuts - A Simple Lesson In Economics  by David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.,
Distinguished Professor of Economics; 536 Brooks Hall, University of
Georgia.
This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.
 
Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every
day, ten men go out for dinner.
The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we
pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh $7.
The eighth $12.
The ninth $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite
happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

 
"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily meal by $20."
 
So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay
their bill the way we pay our taxes.
So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free.
But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy
up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?
 
The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth
man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.
 
So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each
man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the
amounts each should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
 
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued
to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to
compare their savings.
 
"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed
to the tenth man "but he got $10!"
 
"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"
 
"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back
when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
 
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat
down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they
discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between
all of them for even half of the bill!
 
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our
tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore. There are
lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean .

Thanks David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor of Economics,
U of Georgia
Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is
a dangerous servant and a fearful master. -- George Washington

Offline Hooker

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1581
TAXES
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2004, 06:29:26 PM »
Quote from: olemailman
:-D tAX CUTS ARE GREAT. But its being chewed up by inflation.  By that I mean Gasoline prices, natural gas prices, milk prices, where does it all end?  In the end I haven't realize a tax decrease, but a tax increase.  And I can't afford it.  Whats the answer?


Imagine the price of these goods with out the tax cut. They would still be as high but you would have less to money to buy them with. The high price of goods is not a tax. The price is driven by consumer demand, production costs and speculation. Of these three we only have control of one, demand. These high prices will bring down demand. Oil prices are already dropping $6.00 a barrel today. Prices always seem to spike during elections mostly do to speculation over uncertainty. Hang in there better days are coming :wink:  

Pat
" In the beginning of change, the patriot is a brave and scarce man,hated and scorned. when the cause succeeds however,the timid join him...for then it cost nothing to be a patriot. "
-Mark Twain
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

Offline VTDW

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 523
    • http://www.geocities.com/vtdw336/great_outdoors.html
TAXES
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2004, 08:57:13 PM »
olemailman,

Get a part-time job at Wally World, sell your car/truck and ride a horse, burn firewood for heat and cooking and get a milk cow. :-D

Dave 8)

p.s.  They are hiring part time relief postal carriers here.
www.marlinowners.com
How did I get over the hill without getting to the top?

http://photobucket.com/albums/v354/vtdw1/

Offline Dali Llama

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2452
TAXES
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2004, 05:11:00 AM »
Quote from: olemailman
Retirement is great, other than having angioplasty and a stent put in.  
Dali Llama say he glad to see olemailman back, and hope he fully recover from surgery. :D
AKA "Blademan52" from Marlin Talk