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Offline Mike in Ct

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Shooting sticks or Bi-pod ??
« on: September 19, 2004, 10:00:16 AM »
Which do you prefer ?? When I was young I used to just use a walking stick & the sling on the gun [while kneeling] to steady up for the long shots..I hurt my neck & I'm not finding anything that is easy to carry & fast to use...I've taken to rolling my rig around with a modified golf cart...In that way I can take my rifle now equiped with a bi-pod,a small tri-pod & a shooting mat..sandbag or two & a water bottle..plus I can take my binoculars,ammo,camera & a couple of snacks..It sounds like a lot more than you would think you would need...I have to put up a picture of this contraption..but until then I'd like to hear how you guys haul all your stuff around while varmint hunting...mike in ct

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2004, 02:39:16 PM »
Sticks

Put 'em through your belt and they're easy to deploy.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2004, 03:35:34 PM »
Mike in Ct,
I Like the sticks better myself. I make my own sticks and find that its no problem to carry them and they are easy to adjust for height and they are lighter to carry. Thats just one more opinion. Have a good one and keep your powder dry Mike...........Joe..........
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2004, 01:19:23 AM »
I thought I traveled heavy!
I have one of those vests with 20 pockets.  Water, food, ammo, toilet paper, trajectory chart, etc. goes in that.  The only thing I carry besides a gun is a tripod modified with a padded aluminum channel.  It was an ordinary camera tripod, but the channel is screwed to the top to rest the gun in.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2004, 10:05:37 AM »
For sitting I like sticks, for prone I like a short bipod.  

My harris BR weighs in at 10 oz and it great for most prone positions like shooting from field terrices.

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I posted pics of the chuck cart
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2004, 01:36:45 PM »
I posted pics in the general album of the rolling chuck cart & my rifle...it carries my gun & shooting mat..sandbags...Everything I need...take a look & let me know what you think...mike in ct

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2004, 07:47:01 PM »
Depends on what the shooting conditions will be, but I use both sticks and bipods with equal success in the field.   Even prefer the bipods off the bench to bags or mechanical rests.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 03:49:53 AM »
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Depends on what the shooting conditions will be, but I use both sticks and bipods with equal success in the field.   Even prefer the bipods off the bench to bags or mechanical rests.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. A lot of people tell me guns are not as accurate when fired with a bypod attached and shoot better off of a front rest. Well maybe I'm just different but I have always been able to shoot better off of a bypod (either from the bench or prone). For most of my coyote hunting / calling situations I have the bypod attached to my Contender and use the Crossed Shooting Sticks if the need arrises.

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 06:14:03 AM »
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Couldn't have said it better myself. A lot of people tell me guns are not as accurate when fired with a bypod attached and shoot better off of a front rest. Well maybe I'm just different but I have always been able to shoot better off of a bypod (either from the bench or prone). For most of my coyote hunting / calling situations I have the bypod attached to my Contender and use the Crossed Shooting Sticks if the need arrises.

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You've got it right in there pard - if they shoot better off a front rest than a bipod then its just their technique with a bipod that is lacking IMHO.   When shooting TC's its always been best when shooting off bags to place the bag right up against the front of the trigger guard with no rear bag - same would be true with a mechanical front rest.   The forend hanger bar system (I believe Fred started it?) allows you to get away with the bipods mounted farther out front, but I still don't know how anyone ever shot good with the barrel band studs of long ago, or simply resting the barrel itself on either a bag or rest.   Its also fairly common for TC's to string vertically if you just rest the grip on the bench, and it can also happen using a squeeze bag under the grip.   So my so called "technique" is to use hanger bars on all my barrels, mount bipods within the length of the hanger bar and rest the grip on my non shooting hand.   By changing that hands position, squeezing it, or curling fingers under, etc I can raise/lower the grip to zero in on elevation.   Makes for a rock solid hold and one that is repeatable from shot to shot if you have enough control over that hand to keep it dead still.   BTW, I also only use the swivel type Harris bipods so that I can always keep the pistola level even on uneven surfaces with the bipods instead of having to fiddle with leg heights to get level.   A small cant at the pistola is greatly amplified downrange.    I've never used the "scope levels" myself, but would think they are a great idea for anyone who might be having canting problems, especially in the kiling fields with sloping terrain.   At the 1000 yard fun matches I shoot in, we have to shoot prone.   My setup on the 6.5 Super Bower is a bipod and my off hand under the grip while laying on a shooting mat, and it works very well.   I tried my mechanical rest and it sucked - so did bags.   The 6.5SB is laser accurate and very capable even at 1000 yards, so my only limiting factor is the optics it wears.   I am shooting a Burris 10X target pistol scope on it, which is borderline for getting good repeatability on the 10" bull with these aging eyes - especially when mirage picks up.   Sure wish someone would come out with a 24X or 36X extended eye relief scope - the 6.5SB has way too much recoil to use rifle scopes on it and besides, it would be harder for me to set up prone with such short eye relief (and I have a mind block against putting rifle scopes on pistols anyway).   BTW, I have also modified all my Harris bipods with knurled knobs to attach to the studs and levers to lock the swivel - makes them fast to change or lock in the field and was well worth the cost.    I carry in the field with a sling that is easily adjustable so when I am using sticks it can be pulled against to act as a third brace, and that greatly steadies the hold with the sticks - almost making them into a tripod.   I first got hooked on Contenders in 1969 and have had countless hours of enjoyment, put tons of wild meat in the freezer by using them ever since.   Anyway, just some more thoughts to ponder that may be of help to someone I hope.   Do what works for you, and good shooting.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2004, 05:39:14 PM »
I guarentee the sticks won't wear a hole through your back like lugging around a rifle with those *&%$#@ bipods will!!! Even if you do buy the $125.00 Harris super deluxe (over-priced) ones!!    Take my word for it. Then I went to the local farm store paid $2.50 for 2 fiberglass electric fence post (about the diameter of a large ink pen) cut them off about 36" tied them together about 8" down from the top, padded the area that contacts the stock, and "WALLA"    handy walking sticks, handier shooting sticks and NO back shredding metal digging in to back.!!!  denver*c

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2004, 03:41:03 AM »
If I'm going to be sittin in one place basically for several hours shootin pds......give me a bipod and some kind of make shift shooting table and butt stock rest. If I am walking the prairie or need to be mobile or change directions frequently sticks made from an old set of fiberglass tent poles work wonders.

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2004, 04:33:14 AM »
I'm a shooting stick man, easy to carry and to deploy, why add extra weight to your rifle, unless your are belly crawling a lot in open tundra, then the bi-pod makes sense. good shooting either way, a rest is better than none. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2004, 01:12:47 PM »
I use my own home made shooting sticks made from 2512 aluminum arrows.  Quiet and easier to adjust to different shooting heights.  Lighter too.  Lawdog
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2004, 09:34:12 AM »
I use homemade sticks also.  I cut branches or twigs to the length I need and bind them with a rubber band or twine!   :-D
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2004, 04:29:22 AM »
Hi i carry my Stoney Point shooting sticks on every cotoye hunt and derr hunt too i order me a extra ones to carry in my back pack in case i lose the first ones VM

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2004, 06:22:24 PM »
Varmit Master I am with you.  Stoney Point shooting sticks. They are easly adjusted. If you do not need them just pick up the rifle minus the sticks.
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