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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2004, 02:27:26 AM »
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And some sort of gibberish language near my window at night but by the time i got up to look it was gone.


BigBill, can you describe the sounds a little better?  I have had an experience with strange gibberish or whispering along with tree banging (one bang) here in East Texas.  Not saying it was a BigFoot, but it was something I have never heard before.  I am 50 and have spent a lot of time in the woods.
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I've heard rocks being banged together in the early AM like around 1 or 2 AM.   And i've heard some sort of gibberish language near my window at night.  It sounded like a conversation between two of them but i couldn't get out of my bunk quick enough to see them.  Since I purchased my camp on the national forest border we had something following us in the woods no matter time of day or the amount of people I'm with it follows us in and out of the forest while hiking and hunting.  I constantly get the feeling I'm being watched all the time when I'm outside.  I comes close to my camp at night and lets out this scream type loud blood chilling roar that is next to nothing I have ever heard before in my life of being outdoors it just out right intense and once you hear it you will never forget it.  It seems to be attracted by me frying bacon  when ever I fry bacon you can bet it comming that night.  I'm starting to believe as my smoke goes up the ridge into the mountains it crosses its path somewhere it is too.  I've noticed this when hunting on the mountain that the smell of my woodstove really travels a long distance so my bacon smell must too.  It just seems to know when i'm there and it comes to visit and watch me.  I haven't had tree knocking yet in Vermont  but i have had tree knocking in CT. while logging when i was alone logging in the forest here.  This is something I have never experienced in all my life of spending time outdoors logging, fishing, hiking and hunting.   I haven't seen it yet but its a just a  matter of time.                           BigBill

I noticed the spring on my land is the only water that is in my area on my side of the valley so maybe thats why they are there.  There are also reports on a bigfoot reporting site thats right near by my camp that hikers were run out of the woods by something screaming at them in broad daylite.

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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2004, 08:07:16 PM »
Hi All,

Really enjoyed all the great stories.

A little about me: I'm an avid outdoorsman, lifelong hunter and fishermen.
I have hunted most regions of British Columbia and fished (both sport and commercial) all of coastal British Columbia and Alaska.

An incident in the early 1960s that got me interested in the subject of Sasquatch went something like this: A logging company owner by the name of Joe Manuck had a smaller show at a place on Pitt Lake called Frenchman's Bay (now known as Christian Cove on the maps). He went up the mountain about one mile or so to get at some big timber in a very steep and rugged canyon. In the process of setting up a temporary camp for his crew and cook, Manuck towed a wood frame and plywood cook/bunk house on 3-ft-round skid logs up the valley with a D-8 Cat. After Manuck logged the show and got most of the good wood out, he left the old cook/bunk house up there for family and friends to use as a hunting cabin. One weekend during the fall of about 1962, my friends Fred Gerak, Ron Gerak and Vince Manuck Jr. headed up to the area for some black tail hunting.

They reached the place late on a Friday afternoon and proceeded to give the old cabin a quick sweep to get rid of the mouse droppings, chop enough firewood to last a couple of days, cook some dinner and then hit the sack early for some much needed rest. Sometime during the middle of the night they were all rudely awakened by a massive crash of something hitting the outside of the cabin hard enough to dislodge the stove pipes and fill the entire cabin with black soot and choking smoke. At first light in the morning they inspected the cabin fully expecting to find a giant boulder, claw marks from a big bear or some other such sign on the outside walls but found nothing. I went up the following weekend on a hunting trip and had a good look around the cabin for myself. I found no broken branches on any of the small alders that had sprung up beside the cabin or anything else to indicate something with a rational explanation responsible for crashing into the cabin. Over the years I often pondered the thought of what could have possibly hit the cabin's walls "so high up" above the skid logs (on the bunk side where everyone was sleeping and probably snoring a bit) with the force required to knock the stove and its pipes completely out of commission. Not a one of us could figure this out until a later date when the stories of Sasquatch began to quietly circulate amongst the area's loggers.


In the late 1960s, myself and a few other friends, commercial fishermen and old hand loggers went to visit Oscar Greenland (now deceased), a long-time hand logger and permanent resident of Pitt Lake. Oscar seemed to enjoy our visits as we always brought a bottle of his favorite gin and some type of a treat for his faithful old dog. Sometime during the hours long BS session, the subject of Sasquatch was injected into the noisy conversation.

Oscar told us about a time some years back when he was heading up the lake towards home at first light on a beautiful summer morning. He went on to explain that the lake was a flat as glass and there wasn't a breath of wind. As they were heading from point to point he happened to glance towards the shoreline and noticed a rhythmic splashing about 300 yards away.

Out of curiosity he decided to head his old Easthope powered ex-gill-netter towards the beach in case someone was in trouble. As he got closer he noticed a downed alder or cottonwood tree laying in the water with what appeared to be a huge, dark colored man-ape jumping up and down on it - looking for all the world like it was simply playing and totally amused by the splashes it was making in the water. Oscar went on to explain that once the ape-like creature spotted him getting closer, it went up the tree faster than any man could have possibly gone and quickly disappeared into the bush.


Old Oscar then asked us all if we thought there were any grizzly bears in the Pitt Lake country. While none of us had ever seen or heard of a grizzly bear down low in his general neck of the woods, we asked him why he enquired. Oscar said that one day he was up behind his cabin cutting shake blocks when his dog suddenly began to growl, bark and generally go crazy.

Oscar said he stared in the direction the dog's gaze was fixed upon and saw what he thought was about an 8-foot tall grizzly standing on its hind legs partially hidden behind some alders. Oscar went on to say that he'd heard plenty of bears grunt and cougars scream in his days in the bush, but had never heard such a tremendously loud roar come out of any animal he knew of.


Then in the late 1960s, two friends that had been hired by Joe Manuck to clean some of the bigger rocks off a logging road (done to prevent the cat skinner's kidneys from taking a terrible pounding) reported to me that they had been followed by something big and black that stayed well hidden just out of sight but not earshot. (Note: This particular logging road is roughly two miles from Frenchman's Bay and three miles from what used to be Oscar Greenland's homestead.) Equipped with large steel bars to pry the rocks loose, they would then roll the boulders to the edge of the road and into the bush. While taking breaks from their job, they would constantly hear something breaking branches not too far in the bush. When they moved, it moved. The more intent they became in listening (probably because they were scared by now) the more they could hear footfalls. Once purposely peeking into the bush, one of them caught a glimpse of what he thought was an awfully tall black bear. Although nothing else eventful happened, they did mention that whatever was out there in the bush making noise followed them up to the top of the mountain and halfway back down again before becoming disinterested with their rock rolling.


About 1973 or 1974, I was down by the Fraser River talking with some of my old hand-logger commercial fishermen friends and the subject of Sasquatch happen to come up in the conversation. That was the first time I had ever heard that at times these beasts might make some form of nest or bed.


Old Bob was a local shake splitter who had just returned that same day from a deer-hunting trip up in the Hedley country. He somewhat shyly explained to the group that he found a large animal bed located on a perfect vantage point with six-inches of fresh evergreen tree boughs laid carefully in the bottom. He went on to explain he had also found quite a few piles of huge human-type droppings that no man or animal he knew of could make. Apparently these droppings were located about 75-feet from the bed and concentrated in one general area. Old Bob also went on to seriously explain that the bed he'd found had plenty of darker colored hair in the bottom of it and stunk like hell.


Now if I remember right, about six people burst out laughing. At that old Bob became extremely angry and remarked he would take any one of us assholes (excuse the language) back up to Hedley at that very minute and show us the bloody Sasquatch bed he'd found. Seeing that old Bob was seriously mad, the entire group said they were sorry and jokingly believed him. Sadly, nobody took Bob up on his offer. I wish to this day that I would have.


During the fall of 1975 a friend of mine John Sheriff decided to do some deer hunting up in the Chehalis River country. Although John didn't see any deer that day, he said he spotted something very strange. Some years later he asked me how far and well I thought a black bear could walk on its hind legs.
I told him that they look pretty clumsy up there on their hind feet and take short, jerky strides with their paws held in front of them somewhat curled in and pointing down.
While summing up my answer, John looked puzzled and said while he sat and watched a likely looking area for deer, he now believed what he saw was a dark-brown Sasquatch quietly and smoothly slinking from tree to tree, as if it was using them for cover.


In 1995, I had a report from a good friend Dan Gerak owner of the Pitt River Lodge about a fresh set of 17" Sasquatch tracks he found while hiking along a very remote creek in the upper Pitt River country.

Dan said that he and a couple of friends had hiked up a small creek a few miles in search of some good rainbow trout fishing. In a very remote and rugged area they came across four or five 17" Sasquatch tracks impressed into a dampened natural earth slide along the creek.

Dan explained the tracks were farther apart then he could fully stretch his legs and so clear that he could see dermal imprints in the bottoms. Interestingly, Dan also said that while flying in helicopters over the years, he noticed that the valley he found those Sasquatch tracks in, - is the only one that links up cleanly with the Harrison Lake country and has no boxed canyons or obstructions. A possible Sasquatch migration route?

There have been a few reports from loggers and others over the years of Sasquatch sightings concentrated in this general area. Glen Bohn wrote a piece in The Vancouver Sun a few years back of a Sasquatch sighting by a local logger that worked out of the main camp at Alvin, BC. Also a documentary-type film titled Alden's Outdoors that went into detail on Sasquatch and some form of giant salamander-type creature sightings in this area. Interestingly, Dan Gerak also has two recent sighting reports (from either guests of his lodge or people he knows) of these black salamander-type reptiles seen crossing the road.


During the autumn of 1995 I had the opportunity to make a deer hunting trip (with my brother, a friend from work and his older brother) into the Yalakam River country, not too far from Lillooet. Looking at the map now, I believe we hunted off a logging road that ended at the headwaters of Leon Creek, in the Camelsfoot Mountain Range. Although we didn't get any deer that particular trip, I did bring home a multiple Sasquatch sighting report.

On the evening of our first day hunting we went in towards the end of this logging road (called Upper Swamp Road on wooden markers along the way) and stopped in a logged off draw about ¾ of a mile from the end of the road. When we got out of the truck in this valley, my friend Sil mentioned that his uncle had been coming up this same road the previous fall and spotted what he thought was a black bear digging roots about 60 feet from the far treeline. Looking at the spot he was pointing towards, I would say it was no more than 100 yards or so into the clearing from our vantage point. Seems his uncle stopped and readied his rifle to take the bear when it presented a clear shot. Quite soon the somewhat surprised animal suddenly realized it was being watched and quickly stood up.

Sil went on to explain that his uncle literally got the shock of his life when a huge Sasquatch now loomed in front of him and with four or five giant steps hit the treeline and disappeared from sight into the timber. Apparently Sil's uncle was so shaken by what he had just seen that upon his return home he vowed to close family and friends that he'd never to go into this country again for as long as he lived.

Sil also told of meeting two very old hunters at this same location the previous fall that mentioned in a tailgate conversation of seeing a Sasquatch at this very spot the year before. In fact, they said they had made this trip into the area with the hopes of seeing the creature again.

It might be interesting to note that when I went over to the general area where the Sasquatch was sighted I got a strange, uneasy feeling. The bush was so bloody thick and dark you couldn't see 30-feet into it. I also remarked to Sil that this area gave me the creeps and it seemed it was a dead zone. Besides the breeze blowing through the tree tops, there wasn't a sign or a sound of another living creature to be seen or heard.

In mid-October 1996 I made a hunting trip for mule deer bucks into the Pasayten Valley located west of the town of Princeton off of the Hope-Princeton Highway, and then east of the border of Manning Park some 10 to 12 miles in the bush close to the border of the state of Washington. I towed a 16-foot trailer into the area with my truck and decided to make camp at a favorite spot of mine in a clearing along Peeve Creek.

Being tired from three-hour drive and a week’s work, I made a quick dinner, washed it down with some cool mountain water from the creek and hit the sack for some much needed rest.

About midnight I awoke, got out of the sack and quickly stepped outside into the cold to answer the call of nature. Upon opening the trailer door, I was surprised to see snow quietly falling with a light skiff already accumulated on the ground. After attending to the business at hand, I happily climbed back into my warm bed with the hopes that the snow would be around to offer decent tracking conditions come morning.

A crisp, clear dawn found me slowly hiking in towards Trapper Lake high in the hills above and east of Peevee Creek. I hadn’t gone too far when I cut across a fresh trail of huge, five-toed, barefoot, man-like tracks made in the inch or so of freshly fallen snow. Upon careful examination the man-like tracks did not appear to have any type of claw or nail marks ahead of the toes like that of a grizzly or black bear would. These man-like tracks were an estimated 16 to 17 inches long by 7 to 8 inches wide and spaced about four to five feet apart — much further than I could possibly step even stretching my stride.

I followed the straight line of big man-like tracks for several hundred yards until they entered a thicket of young evergreens and blow-downs. These barefoot tracks seemed strange in that they did not wander about like the tracks of most wild animals would and showed little or no offset from an imaginary line through their center.

After looking into the thicket and envisioning all sorts of strange scenarios, I decided I didn’t want to meet the maker of those tracks and rapidly hightailed out of that country for the season. I did, however, return to the same area the following September with a friend and we managed to harvest two beautiful mule deer bucks. We found no further tracks or Sasquatch sign.    


During the fall of 1998 I knew a party hunting the Jedney area off the Alaska Highway that had a half a moose ripped down off a meat rack that was a measured 14-feet from the ground. Upon a very close check, these experienced hunters didn't see any grizzly or black bear sign around the area. Nor could they find anything else to indicate they knew who or what stole their moose. I checked out the meat rack myself (I was camped only about ½ mile away and our lower hanging moose meat wasn't touched) and came to the conclusion that unless someone came 40-miles into the bush equipped with a big ladder, there was no way in hell they could have got the moose down — besides, the rope that held the meat up on the rack was snapped from a heavy strain by something very powerful pulling downwards and not cut by someone with a knife.

The summer of 2000 found a group of teenage boys preparing to have a campout on the rear of a private 20-acre piece of property located just west of Deroche, B.C. The boys had set up their tents far away from the family home close to the edge of the bush, which still remains quite wild and rugged at the base of the Coast Range Mountains.

It was just shortly before dark, and all the boys were gathered around a central campfire when something screamed at them with a huge volume from inside the edge of the forest. Whatever screamed at them could also be clearly heard pacing back and forth and breaking heavy branches inside the treeline.

In a later conversation, one of the boys described the warning-type scream as monkey-like with a volume that would be impossible for any human voice to duplicate without the assistance of an amplifier.

On June 30, 2003 I received another report of a possible Sasquatch encounter from the same above-mentioned property outside of Deroche, BC. According to the three scared witnesses (two females and one male) who had wandered into a somewhat swampy and remote area of the property hardly ever visited by the residents, threatening high-pitched screams, the snapping sounds of heavy branches and strange, non-human mumbling or murmuring voices and other unintelligible sounds were heard after they stumbled upon a crudely built bed made out of old cedar boughs. The witnesses also claimed to have smelled a very strong odor described as being a mixture of sulphur, rotten meat or eggs and human excrement.

On Tuesday, July 29th I had another report of possible on-going Sasquatch activity from the above-mentioned property owners outside Deroche, BC.  Shortly before dark the residents reported hearing extremely heavy footfalls outside that shook the entire house, scaring the females at home at the time quite badly. Shortly after this happened, two very loud high-pitched screams were heard coming from just inside the edge of the bush on their property. The sounds of the scream reportedly set off howling from some of the dogs on farms in the area. Shortly after dark the residents were driving towards town on a road in front of their property when a very large rock suddenly flew from heavy bush at the roadside and narrowly missed their vehicle.

Well, believe them or not, that's about all my Sasquatch tales for now.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2004, 02:36:21 AM »
Hi Ol man mountain :D
  thanks for some very interesting reports, hope you post more of them as you think of them or more comes in. One common theme of your sightings and ours, here in Okla, is the screams or hollers, and the foot tracks, the smell and the walking upright.
  I once was waken up at about 2 A.M. with something walking on my wooden porch. I weigh 300 lbs, and could not make the porch squeak like this thing did. Never did see what it was. But the next morning had a red cardinal, box turtle, and blue jay -- all dead, lying outside my bedroom window, like maybe an gift? dunno. strange though.

   Maybe if you put some of them game camera`s up, you might get a picture?

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2004, 04:48:23 AM »
Great stories keep them comming this site is awfull queit lately I guess most are on vacation or bigfoot got them? kidding But these stories sure sound familair with the stalking in the woods it just sent chills up my spine reading it.  Beds in the pines and cedars I have them all around me and really thick too.  I did notice many large beds in the alfalfa field that is completely hidden in the forest that no one knows about.  I'll have to go check again I haven't been there in years but its a few minutes from my camp and in the direction of the screams too like right inline with them I never gave it much thought till now.  I have the location and its the same way my smoke goes from my camp too.  Its a puzzle sometimes but its starting to come together the more i realize with the help of other posts here.  I just want to see it once and i wish to make friends with it maybe a pastrami rubin will do it?  I make the best on the planet!!  The misses just got a reciepe for cinnamon buns you know how good some look and they taste like crap these look ok but taste better than they look the best i ever had too I'll bake some of them too and offer them too.  I'm just kidding but the food may just do it?                                                                  BigBill                        

Bulletmaker I've had no dead things yet left for me but maybe its their way of contacting us heck they can't call 1 800 collect so in there own way this is how they maybe  come a "court'in"??  It could be a female??

I'm dead serious now everytime i walk out of my camp down the national forest access road something for many years has followed me and my brother from up on the ridge.  We think sometimes we imagine stuff happening but i can hear branches breaking when i'm walking and when we would stop it stops too.  This story sure validates my findings and whats going on at my camp in the north country.  But the scream you will never forget this scream if you have ever heard it.  Its the worst bone chilling sound i have ever heard and loud and intense too and i don't think it was that close too its hard to tell but its so loud nothing on earth that i know of makes this sound.

MIKEY  Its almost time to go a lookin??  We need to investagate more!!!!

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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2004, 05:35:24 AM »
Hey Bulletmaker & Big Bill,

Glad you enjoyed my stories. I'll keep 'em comin' as they come in.

Bulletmaker: I have been closely studying the ways of these Bigfoot/Sasquatch creatures for the past 40 years or so (much the same way that I have studied the ways in the wild of deer, bears, moose, elk and any creature that walks, crawls, swims or flies.) and I firmly believe that they are much, much smarter than we give them credit for being. In fact, I have come to believe that Sasquatch is a the top of the food chain in the wild and "all" the other animals that live their darned well know it too.

Now I might be wrong here, but I don't think you will get a picture of this creature with a game trail camera mounted on a tree in an area that Sasquatch calls home. Why not? For one, I believe they are keenly aware of anything out of place or slightly different in their environmet. Secondly, I believe that "all or most" electronic devices powered by batteries give off some type of low or high frequency sound that these animals (and maybe a few others) are fully aware of. Nope, I think that if we want to get a picture of this creature we'll have to try and outsmart it at its own game. Maybe, just maybe Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin "being on horses" played a big role in them filming a Sasquatch in California in 1967?

Food might help lure one in alright. However, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts it's been tried thousands of times and there still hasn't been too many Sasquatch/Bigfoot filmed while sneaking in to steal what's been left out.

Now I don't make any claims or have any answers, but I think it will take someone wise in the ways of wild being out in the woods on a daily basis and over a very long period of time before we come up with any pictures or concrete evidence proving that these creatures called Bigfoot even exist.

These days there seems to be very few of us that can afford to put the time and effort into such a venture.
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2004, 06:00:45 AM »
You guys sure do live more interesting lives than I do. Hardly anything strange goes on around here, well unless you count the people.  :)  But I'm not in very wild country either. One of these days I gotta come visit some of you guys and see if I can experience some of this.

Big Bill, have you guys ever thought of this: Three of you go walking. When you hear the sounds near you stop. One stays put. One moves forward and one moves back the way you came. Gives you three different angles of view to it and if it moves one of you might see it. If not maybe the two who moved can ease in on it from behind and in front and get a look. Dunno, just an idea. Another thought. Since you say it comes calling when you cook bacon I think it was, ever considered having someone up in a tree in that general direction it comes from in a treestand when you cook? Might get a view as it comes in a calling.


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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2004, 07:58:33 AM »
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Three of you go walking. When you hear the sounds near you stop. One stays put. One moves forward and one moves back the way you came. Gives you three different angles of view to it and if it moves one of you might see it. If not maybe the two who moved can ease in on it from behind and in front and get a look. Dunno, just an idea.

I think that would be worth trying. My Dad and I used to hunt whitetail that way...we would walk together and one of us would stop and hide quietly while the other kept hiking...9 out of 10 times a deer would present itself being their normal curious selves....

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Another thought. Since you say it comes calling when you cook bacon I think it was, ever considered having someone up in a tree in that general direction it comes from in a treestand when you cook? Might get a view as it comes in a calling.

This will work...I had great, although somewhat frightening, results with pork chops cooked in beer...we didn't need a stand to see the eyes, but they hardly make a noise unless they want to....the Sasquatch is just as intelligent as us, only in a different "animal like" way.

I think that they sometimes move so slow and with such stealth that we as humans can not detect them, even with current technology. I also believe that they are so careful and have such superior night sight that they would not fail to spot a person in a tree.....another off the wall thing that I am almost 100% sure on is their body odor...sometimes they  "stink" other times they don't, the Sasquatch uses scent as a form communication...

A couple Amish folk told us that they throw the "White Thing" cabbage cores and leftover greens so it wouldn't eat the chickens. so I reckon the Sasquatch will eat cabbage, turnip greens, and live chickens?????? Most of the Amish that was questioned turned the subject or said nothing...none denied the creatures existence.

If you are ever in the woods and see something move out of the corner of your eye, stop and look, but don't be surprised if a stump jumps up and runs off.

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2004, 12:41:27 PM »
Guys; Its always showed up with cooking supper with bacon I was fooling with my son and i opened the roof vents and held the frying pan near the vent for a while but i did send the smell up the ridge for quite sometime and by when we sat down to eat it was nearby screaming like it did before.

Now with it following us in the national forest I scanned the ridge with my 12x scope and never pick it up but i can hear it as plan as day walking with us.  Before the screams started happening i thought it was coyotes all along I never gave it any thought.  Even during the summer months while on vacation with my family it would follow us in the forest.  I'm never without my 357 snubbie around my camp.

I always had my sks with a 30rd'er as my camp gun but lately I changed to my 8mm Hakim with a 25rd mag in it.   I don't want to just kill it unless it comes thru my door and i have no choice.  I have my 338win.mag with me too bear hunting.

I'm thinking of maybe using a pot over the fire with ham hocks in it and have a hole in the pan small enough to drip the grease in the fire just a little to flavor the smoke from it.  But maybe beer like some say too?

Its gonna get very interesting soon!!!                    BigBill


I talked with a lady on a mountainlion reporting site and we talked frequently and she is in the northeast kingdom of Vermont and her dad is a hunting guide and she told him what i'm experiencing with noises and the first thing he said was its a bigfoot and he said nothing else.  I have a feeling he knows more but won't say anything.

I remember seeing funny bear tracks so i thought I couldn't make out the toes that well but it had toes in the loose snow but they were bigger than my 13" sorels they had to be maybe 15 to 16" to be bigger than my boots are.  I don't remember the stride I didn't pay that much attention to it. This spot is past my ridge where it drops down to the coldest valley in my area it faces north and its always very cold so cold you hug the south side of the big trees trying to warm up. But its loaded with big thick pines too.

Something out of place example (cameras) I have two kittens since last november in the house i found abandoned  if i walk into a room and change something one will come into the room after and walk right up to what i changed and sniff it.  These kittens haven't gone out yet so my house is there domain. I noticed something else too she talks to its brother and i can't hear it because all of a sudden the brother gets up who is in the other room sleeping and will come into my room and look at it with her.  My points if bigfoot is anywhere near as sensitive as my kittens are to its surroundings it knows when something is out of place.  I'm surprised how smart these little guys are.  I'm sure bigfoot is much smarter if he's like we are.

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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2004, 12:14:06 PM »
This thread has gone on for a bit now but without a lot of 'scientifically' based evidence as to the existence of a Bigfoot creature.  But honestly, I ain't gonna let that stop me...  and to add just a bit more fuel: I read something in the paper today that goes back to the thread about the 'little people' the Native Americans and other native cultures believed lived here when man first came?  Legends abound in many cultures about these creatures, the little people, and may even be the basis for extensive cultural myth, such as in Mexico and other Latin/South American cultures as with the Cuca-whatever.  

For us Bigfoot believers there may be hope yet for some scientific proof someday, but it might come from some very small packages:  The Associated Press reports today from London of a discovery that could re-write the history of human evolution, casting doubt as to whether we (modern man) all evolved from beginnings in Africa, and beginning speculation as to just how many brances there may be to the Homo Sapien family tree.

Anthropologists on a remote Indonesian island found the remains of a dwarf homo erectus species they have named Homo Floresiensis or Flores Man, from Flores Island where the remains were found.  These folks were 3' tall and lived from 95K to 12K years ago and may have interacted with many of our earlier indigenious peoples, hence possible legends about 'little people'.  

Anthropologists theorized the population became dwarfted over time due to food source limitations and competition from the Homo Sapien.  Apparently this has happened in other species so I guess it is a possibility.

So, if this is possible then can opposites be true - So that for Bigfoot an unlimited food source, no real competition for food (he can outhunt us anytime), no real predators, maybe, and possible unlimited access to all continental areas via the Monmouth Cave chain could it not be that it would be kinda tough to find the remains.  I mean gee guys, if these little guys haven't been foound in 12K years, how tough do ya think it would be to find someone who travels well - lol.   Now, with this in mind I'm wondering if they are actually going to come up with some Bigfoot remains sometime so we can actually have proof.   Mikey.

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How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2004, 08:33:47 AM »
The real question would be does this primate bury it's dead?

If so, then no remains ever found would make sense.

If not, then you have a body at the mercy of other animals and the elements.

We have all seen roadkill decompose rather quickly out in the open on the roads and such. It dont take long, when you add in scavengers, temp, weather conditions and all of the many things that go on as time progresses.

Maybe someone will get lucky enough to come across a fresh body so to speak, or one will turn up on a construction site. But untill then everybody's guess is as good as yours Mikey.
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2007, 02:35:07 PM »
Well 3 years down the road, and still no body to poke with a stick...
I'm still looking though.

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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2007, 05:47:09 PM »
So me and my brother are up in the mountains cutting firewood for his wood stove. We usually wear a sidearm, but this time I left mine in the truck. All I have is a hand axe. My brother goes back to the truck to fill up the chainsaw, while I trim branches off the felled trees.

Now this is high in the mountains above and near the Continental Divide. We have seen and heard wolves, ran into newly made fresh bear sign, and this time it was strange to see many deer this high. We figured wolves.

The next thing I hear is K-chink from his Sig 229 and see my brother looking like he was about to be ate or something. I asked, what's going on, and he said something big just growled at him. He said it sounded like a mountain lion, even though he never seen a mountain lion and neither have I. All I could see was big pine trees and bushes moving back and forth.

Something really big and loud made a wide circle around us and ran into a guy on a ATV who fired one shot, and then took off at full throttle like a bat out of hell. I quickly found the courage to move to the truck and arm myself with my seemingly measly .357 magnum.

After we figured it was safe, we hastily started collecting the firewood we cut. I was carrying logs over and throwing them in a pile for easy loading. Each time the logs hit others they made a "thupe" sound. Next thing you know we hear the same "thupe" sound and comment there must be someone else up here cutting firewood.

Now, these are big logs cause we cut smaller later so they load better. It takes all my strength to carry one. When we heard "thupe" sounds from more than one direction and saw big trees moving without the wind, we loaded up and got out of there. It was the first time we never brought home a full load. When we left either a big rock jumped into the back of my truck or something threw one at us.

There was no one else on that mountain.

The next week we loaded up with big bore revolvers, .44 and .41 magnum, and shotguns and such. We went back to the same place to get more wood. You could tell something big had moved through the forest, but could not tell what it was from the ground cover.

I could not get over the fact it felt like someone was watching us work. We even broke the chainsaw by watching the trees and not paying attention to what we were doing.

My brother, being more practical than me, said it was a Grizzly. If it was a Griz, there was more than one, and they purposely harassed us until we left that day.

I surmise we found a Bigfoot migration corridor and they, meaning a family group, were herding deer. We inadvertently messed up their hunt by cutting firewood in that place.

That's when we decided to get into big bore rifles and hunt black bear in the same area. If-ing we don't come back, someone will be finding some very good knives, revolvers, and rifles. They will need them. MV out!
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Re: Would I pull the trigger?
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2007, 03:55:54 PM »
I have had time to think about it and No. The only way I would shoot it was if my life was in danger.  Its enough just to see these creatures in the woods.
Its not like a deer or a hog, this thing has a soul its almost human, it would be like murder to shoot one just to do it.
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2010, 05:10:29 PM »
The search continues.... Not any luck though.  :-\ Had a few odd events, but nothing I could positively identify...
I figure sooner or later, somebodys gonna get lucky, and Prove this thing is real...
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2010, 06:48:47 PM »
Maybe but I'm still a skeptic, I don't think they exist except in the minds of those who want them to. I'm willing to be proven wrong of course but too many folks been trying for too long it seems to me for not a shred of evidence to be produced.


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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2010, 11:31:53 PM »
Maybe but I'm still a skeptic, I don't think they exist except in the minds of those who want them to. I'm willing to be proven wrong of course but too many folks been trying for too long it seems to me for not a shred of evidence to be produced.

 Maybe the bigfeets shred the evidence gatherers before they get away.  :o
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2010, 07:08:13 PM »
Just curious Bill but is the Bigfoot forum dead now & were using this one again? This post started a long time ago and some of these folks haven't been around in a while.  ;)  Just wondered whats happening here?

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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2010, 07:41:41 AM »
That Forum is all but dead. Might as well be a topic here. I don't mind seeing it myself, but others may have a differing opinion.

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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2010, 08:47:44 AM »
As Barb said Bigfoot Study is all but dead. I think to a large extent because I didn't put a stop to the feud soon enough but for whatever reason it seldom gets posted to.


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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2010, 03:37:08 PM »
Bill, if anyone is still posting I might take a look. I lost the link though, could you post it for me or pm it to me?

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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2010, 10:45:29 AM »
My friend and his brother saw a Bigfoot here in north Florida when he was young.  He remembers it well and says it wasn't some other animal.
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2010, 03:09:27 PM »
My friend and his brother saw a Bigfoot here in north Florida when he was young.  He remembers it well and says it wasn't some other animal.

That wouldn't happen to be one of them Tullis boys from over in Freeport would it?  They've been known to see some pretty wild haired stuff when they get to drinking that stuff that they used to make up the slough from Basin Bayou!

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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2010, 04:06:59 PM »
That they do but these kids were from Baker.
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2010, 06:47:14 PM »
I've seen some big rattlesnakes up above Baker!  Never seen any bigfoots though.  No telling what's in the Blackwater, have not been there in decades though.

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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2010, 02:59:42 AM »
6 foot plus rattlers are pretty common down here.
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Re: How I got into this Big foot thing.
« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2010, 05:44:56 AM »
  Never seen a bigfoot but i did see a black bear go through the brush on morning next to my deer stand. This is in an area that has NO bears. Later when i met up with my hunting partner i told him what i saw. He told me what he thought i was full of. Two days later a guy 1/2 mile from this place took a picture of one in his pasture. Since then there has been sightings of one 5 miles from here and even one killed on the interstate about 15 miles from here. Looks like anything is possible. Bigfoot, i am not sure about that. I have spent 50 years wondering through the woods. Never seen anything that couldn't be explained.