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Offline BART

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wildcatting the 7.62X39 case
« on: May 05, 2004, 12:30:36 AM »
i have found out that i have a lot of 7.62x39 brass in a box in my
shop ... i was wondering if there is any information on any wildcats
that have been made from this parent case ..... and if not ... where
could i go for some information on trying to use this case for a
necked down cartridge ..... possibly a 257 mabe ...... and if that
works well maybe finding something inbetween or smaller .... and how
i may be able to find dies and or barrels for testing ....
most likely a T/C Contender would be the test platform (maybe).....

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2004, 02:33:24 AM »
Someone will probably correct me, but isn't the 220 Russian (the former Soviet Union's answer to the 5.56 NATO cartridge) based on the 7.62x39 case? A 220 Russian with a sharper shoulder and less body taper would seem a natural choice for a 7.62x39 wildcat. After that, the sky could be the limit (6mm, 25, 270, 7mm, 8mm, 35/9mm,.......?).

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2004, 02:14:01 PM »
How about a 6mm PPC? I've heard they shoot pretty good... :-)
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2004, 01:04:53 PM »
Isn't there also a 7mm PPC?  That's pretty close to a .257.......

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2004, 08:53:44 PM »
Bart--Did you read the heading a few lines down on 30 PPC?? All of the brass was made from 7.62x39. This same brass could be necked down to .284/7MM or .257, but necks would need to be turned down.  This cartridge is ideal for a single shot hunting pistol.

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2004, 07:32:36 AM »
I just "acquired" a Mini Mk 10 in 7.62x39. Now what to make out of it? Thoughts come to mind like the 17 PPC ,, 25PPC, 6mmPPC. I think I`ll make a 6.5/PPC and be different. Got the reamers for all of the above as well as dies for the 17. Have to see CH4D for the 6.5 though.



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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2004, 07:52:19 AM »
carol pylant at sierra sent me some data a while back on the 6.5x39...says it is the cat's meow in an xp100 style ss pistol...i was thinking of getting on and converting it to 6.5 tcu...which i already have in a contender...sounds like a good balance of bullet/velocity/accuracey...
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2004, 08:48:33 AM »
Hi Kirk,
Try a search for the 6.5 Grendel. It looks like a neat Hunter class silhouette round for the rifle as well!
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6.5 grendel...
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2004, 09:24:16 AM »
i saw those listed in midway...i would be more interested in the big brother 500 version..on an ar15...that would be sweet....but alas..no ar...no grendel...
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2004, 03:08:18 AM »
From a purely theoretical point of view, the x39 case with a capacity of about 2.03 cc would be ideal for pushing bullets from about 50-60 grains at @3000+ fps or 70-80 grains at @2900 fps for varmints, and 90-100 grains at @ 2700 fps or 110-120 grains at @2500 fps for medium game. This makes it well-suited to the .243 and .257 range of bullets. The .264 and above bullets would range on the too-heavy side for this case capacity, and the section density would be on the low side with the lighter-end bullets (one of the inherent problems with the original 7.62mm diameter).

The .243 would give you a bullet range from 55 to 100 grains, while the .257 would give you a range from 75 to 120 grains. With a view to suitability for medium game, I would go with the .257 for the heavier bullet weights. Something to consider also is that the 6mm PPC, 6mm TCU, and the 6mm BR all have very similar case capacities to the x39, and therefore going that route would essentially be a reinvention of the wheel. The .257s, on the other hand, don't have an existing case size anywhere in the 2.03 cc neighborhood, so you would be breaking some new ground in that respect.

Hmmm, a "257 Rusky" or "25-39" cartridge...could actually SELL! I know I would be interested enough to try it. Been thinking about trying to load down the 250 Savage  to make an ultralight recoil deer round for my daughters, but you might have a better answer.
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