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Offline James B

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« on: November 24, 2004, 12:58:09 PM »
I called the gun shop and put a stainless steel 223 Handi rifle on layway. I saw it at a gun shop on my way home from hunting last week. They had a good supply of Handi rifles. I had a 223 until about 6 months ago in the regular blued handi rifle. That one was stolen from me and I doubt it will ever be recovered. It was a good shooter with 12 to 3/4 inch groups. To the dismay of some I intend to use it for varmits and deer. I want a rifle that I can head shoot deer out to 150 yards or so. I have done it with an over and under 222/20 Ga savage and it works as long as your shot will be a head shot or a clean miss. I will use either the 60 grain nosler partition, the 55 grain trophy bonded bear claw or the Barnes X bullet. All are intended for use on deer and pronhorns according to thier manufactures. If I have any trouble with deer hunting with it, I will get a 243 barrel for it. I have a bad shoulder that the recoil of bigger rifles really tears up.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 01:42:23 PM »
I know this subject has been worn out, but with good judgement & proper shot placement, the .223 can be a fine deer cartridge.
   My son took his first 2 deer with an SB2 .223 bull bbl, both were heart shots & they both ran about 30 yds.   Anyone who hunts knows proper   shot placement is the key, whether you're shooting a 22 or a .338 or anything in between.  Practice,Practice,Practice, shoot what you have confidence in.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 06:11:24 PM »
James,

You may have trouble stabilizing the 60 gr bullets.  I tried some 63 gr that went all over the place.  However, I did get some 2" groups with IMI  62 gr.  I think it's Sierra that makes a 63 gr that is built for a 1 in 12" twist, like the Handi has.  I haven't actually shot any, so I don't know how they shoot.

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The Sierra Semi-Pointed Bullets are also shorter than other comparable weight bullets, which allow them to stabilize in slower twist rate barrels. source

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2004, 01:49:47 AM »
Paul, My son's .223 shoots the Sierra 63 gr. semi-point soft-nose bullets really,really good. That's what he shot both his deer with.  I shot a nice buck with the same load. The boy was only 11 and the buck was a little out of his comfortable shooting range, ( 175 yds, measured with a lazer rangfinder) I did'nt have my rifle and the buck was too nice to pass up.
  I shot him once, he took off, I quickly reloaded and shot again. He ran about 75 yds and went down.  Both shots were right on, about 2 inches apart, and both were pass-throughs with quarter size exits. IMO they are a good bullet.
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2004, 04:45:14 AM »
BA,

That's good to know.  

I have actually been so busy having fun with my .45/70, I haven't worked much with the .223 lately.  However, I haven't gotten very good results with any of my handloads in .223.  Win white box 45 gr varminters shoot pretty decent, but not handloads so far.

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2004, 05:58:29 AM »
I have the 45-70 as well. Its a shooter forn sure. I will try the Sierra semi pointed bullet when I get the 223. Thanks for the replys.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2004, 06:37:05 AM »
Hey Paul, Have you tried 26.0 gr. Varget with a 40 gr. NBT, seated as long as the you dare.  I have to be on my toes or Robin-hood can out-shoot my 10FP with this load in his NEF. No BS
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2004, 04:54:24 PM »
BA,

The only Nosler I have is the 45 gr solid base and it doesn't shoot too good.  I tried 26.0 gr Varget, but I think I used a 50 gr V-max and it didn't shoot good.  I use a 40 gr V-Max in my Hornet Handi and get less than 1" at 100 yards, but I haven't been able to do it with the .223 regardless of what I use.