Author Topic: 45/70 shot shells? (Read 4571 times)

jhalcott · « **on:** November 21, 2004, 06:25:56 AM »

I have a 45/70 barrel that gets little use. I just got back from a deer hunt in Maine and missed several chances at Partridge birds.I DID GET THE DEER THOUGH! Any way I was thinking about loading the 45/70 with a shot charge for the bird and squirrel shooting opportunities I get. They used to call these loads "Forager" loads. Does any one have any info on them.? Do I need an over powder wad.and what kind? Any info would be very appreciated.

rickyp · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2004, 12:49:29 PM »

this could work but not for what you want to do.
you take a 45 cal gas check seat it over the powder then put the shot in and then put a norther 45 cal gas check over the shot then crimp it in place like a normal bullet.

You will only get a good pattern out to about 15 feet then it will be so wide you will not hit anything and the amount of shot will not be enough to fill in the gaps.
the barrel rifling will pit a spin on the shot, this is why the 45/410 has the "choke tube" it stops the shot from spinning.

this would be mostly for a rat / snake load

HHI-7420 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2004, 09:02:02 AM »

jhalcott, try wrapping plastic sheeting around the shot load in the opposite direction of the rifling so that it holds the shot load together as it goes down the bbl.. Also cuts out any lead deposits. Works great in a .44mag. Pat

haroldclark · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:04:53 AM »

Years ago, I had a magazine article with directions and pictures for making up shotshells for the 444 Marlin. I was going to get to it one day, but never did. Of course, I can't find the article at this time.

However, the guy suggested a 410 shotshell cup. That is a fit for the interior of the 444 Marlin, but I would look at the 28 gauge or 20 gauge shotshell cup to see what the dimensions are.

Now, you have just fired up my interest again. I have absolutely no use for a shotgun, but it would be fun to play with loading and a little shooting. When Winchester came out with the Model 94 in the 410 shotshell, I had to take two asprin and take a nap for that hummm to go away and it still knaws on me when I see one.

Let us know if you persue the shotshell loading.

Thanks,

Harold Clark

Duffy · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2004, 07:03:25 AM »

J,
Am working on the same thing for a freinds BFR. Thinking of using a BP sabot for the shot cup and then using a nywrap to extend it up. Top it off with a overshot card and crimp. Or at least that's the plan, we're waiting for the sabot's to get here. Wal-Mart has nice nylon sheeting in the crafts section for making stained glass transfers. I use it in my turkey loads and it works great. The 410 shot cups are too small in the 4570 but would work great in the 444. I would recomend the Remington ones as they seem to hold up better in the shotshell I make for my 45 auto. Other's are too soft and shred.

He's also looking for some good load/bullet combos for his BFR, got any?

BillinOregon · « **Reply #5 on:** December 04, 2004, 06:30:37 AM »

I made some of these out of .444 Marlin brass for a .410 Enfield musket. Can't recall the powder charge, but I used veggie fiber wads that the boys use in loading for BPCR long range work -- one of these over the powder, a couple of Wonder Wads (for use in .44 and .45 cap and ball pistols) as cushions, a load of shot, then top with another veggie wad and apply a crimp over the end to hold her in. They worked fine.