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Offline ScatterGunner

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« on: November 23, 2004, 04:15:17 PM »
went up to camp yesterday to check on the progress of the fireplace and roof. the masons were finishing up the stone facing and the roofer was putting up the "cricket", this thing that keeps snow and rain water from leaking down the chimney. everything looked good so Stink (my dog) and i headed out with the .410 handi in search of the elusive ruffed grouse.

i had some hand loads that used about 14 grains of H110 and a 1/2oz of #6's in the pocket. we started out around 10:30am. stink and i worked out this scheme were we walk for a bunch of steps, stop for a few seconds, then do it again. an elder wingshooter told me that this drives grouse nuts, they can't take the noise, then silence.

about a 1/2 hour into our walk, we had a flush from a fallen tree and i had no shot. the bird flew real low about 10 yards into a thicket and then must have run. we scoured the thicket, nothing. no low shots for me with the dog around.

20 or so minutes later we made it through the woods to what the locals' call the "Lead Mines Road", the cartographers show it as the Rossie - Redwood Trail and it runs through some old dutch settlements and farms from the town of redwood to a farm on the edge of the rossie township. the road was  heavily used back in WWII to provide access to the lead mines that still dot the area but have long been sealed up to prevent hapless explorers from meeting their early demise.

Stink got a bit ahead of me on the trail and lunged head first into the small ditch on the southern side of the trail. a nice fat grouse launched and headed for the woods, no ground cover, just barren trees. i managed to get one shot off and the bird folded up like an accordian.

Stink is not a hunting dog, nor will he retrieve, nor will he point, etc., etc. he is a house pet, the only he hunts for is an easier way of life. but he did run in the general direction of the bird after it flushed. the bird landed 48 good sized paces off the road from where i shot. Stink had to be 15 yards ahead of me when the bird flushed and i basically had a skeet shot from the 4th station low house.

i'll tell you, i usually use 7 1/2 shot or 8's on grouse, but that 1/2 ounce of #6's folded that bird up clean. it was dead, not a flutter. i may keep a few of those #6 loads close by and handy just for those long hail mary shots !

so for dinner, Stink and i had some really good grouse soup. it was a simple recipe, breast out and bbq the bird then chop it up, 2 cans chicken stock, carrots, celery, homemade motza balls, a 1/2 handful of chopped cilantro, a pinch of basil, a loaf of seriously crusted bread, some butter,  and chow down !

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 03:24:18 AM »
Scattergunner,

Fine shot on a fine bird.

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 03:53:21 AM »
Great way to spend a day at camp SC, you and Stink, a .410 and Partridge soup!!!!. By the way, hows the building going?....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2004, 03:59:26 AM »
hi msp -

the building is coming along fine. all the heating, plumbing, insulation, and electrical is done and they are doing the staircases, sheetrock, and stone facing on the fireplace and BBQ. the floor is next after the sheet rock is done.

i am having a particularly hard time getting a propane tank for fuel. it seems that with oil at or above $2.00 a gallon, propane is cheap all of a sudden. i need a 1,000 gallon tank to carry me through the winter for heat, cooking, and the generator running part time when i loose power. the only tank i could find locally was a 350 gallon tank. so this week the search continues.

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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2004, 06:36:51 AM »
Sounds as if all is going well SC. Around my camp in Maine they have what they refer to as "500 pounders" or "pigs. They are quite large and the propane company will come and fill them on site for free, just the cost of the propane. They are cylinders about 4-5 feet long and about 3' in diameter, lying on thier side...I have thought about going to one of them but I currently have 2 100 lb. bottles standing next to my camp for the gas stove alone and they last at least 3 years!!!. If I do decide to put in a gas space heater as a secondary heat source in addittion to my wood stove I might go to a "pig"....<><....
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2004, 11:02:25 AM »
Sounds like one fine day Scattergunner.  What kind of equipment are you loading your .410 shells on.  The Lee Load-all only comes in 12, 20 & 28 gauges as near as I can tell.  Other presses start getting a bit pricy for me.  Then again stinkin' .410 shells aren't cheap either compared to bulk 12 gauge stuff from Wally-World.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2004, 02:33:36 PM »
yeah ! don't sugar coat it ! tell me what fur !

now i wanna be a woodsman !

 :-D

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2004, 02:40:45 PM »
This is for Alabama Outlaw, the "newbie".

Been there, done that...possibly for as many years as you have been on Gods good earth. Now that we have worked for it and want it, we have it...bought and paid for the land, cleared it myself with a chain saw, a Cut-Quick" and an old Toyota truck. Built the camp myself and wired it myself from the weatherhead on down. I Cut my own wood for the woodstove and it gets us through as much as we want to go up in the winter. Temps to -26 with 35-40 mph winds is cold.  I still have an outdoor shower, it's a plastic bladder you fill with hot water after you heat the water on the woodstove, you can have your ice cold showers, I had enough and want no more. Yep, got electricity now, only needed one pole to bring it in, put it in myself. Got a gas stove (propane) to cook on now and love it. Some day soon my camp will be as convenient as my house and I can't wait. You continue to crawl under the nearest  blowdown to sleep at night, I've done my share and so has SC. We have gotten our "camps" the old fashioned way, we EARNED them!!!. And I dare say we deserve them too. But don't fret, I am sure someday you will have yours also, just keep plugging away like we did....


By the way Alabama, Welcome aboard!!! It's a great place to spend some time when your not in the woods (or your camp!!)....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2004, 03:10:56 PM »
you know it isn't like i never froze body parts icefishing, or had to peel myself from the frozen ground, or picked off about 68,000 ticks, or spent a few years trying to figure out how to shoot a turkey only to bag a wet a$$ and good solid case of the cold. and grouse hunting in january is pleasant and easy too, up here, why the grouse just surrender and hop into the oven when the temperature goes below 35 degrees fahreheit.

my shed that served as "camp" for a long time never got above 40 degrees in the dead of winter, even with a kerosene heater and propane furnace blazing away while it was -25 degrees outside. the only that kept me and my dog from freezing at night was both of us shivering inside of a zipped up sleeping bag. hell, insulation was luxury.

my first trailer, in 1980,  up there was a few notches below what the alabama outlaw would consider a condo  :)   no heater, just coleman lanterns, and the only gun i could afford was a marlin model 60 .22 caliber rim fire tube feeder that i still have and use. i was po'.

after the ice storm of 1998 trashed the trailer i picked up a well used RV that i had towed in. it was one of those van's that had the big cube on the back with the bed over the drivers cab. consumate luxury to say the least.

had some good times in that camper. my boys called it the "shaggin wagon" because it was built in 1972 and had bright green shag carpet on the floors like something out of that "spy who shagged me" movie, i forgot the actors name, sorry.

i'll bet anyone from alabama would have a tough time up here being anykind of a woodsmen in a plywood nailed cheapo tin roofer sheetrocked thang !!!

alabama - you have an open standing invitation to come on up here in february to show me how to be a woodman ! the ticket and chow is on me. i would be honored to have you as my guest.

the only thing i ask is that you bring some of that really good bbq with you, i'll say one thing about you all in alerbamer, you can cook some really good food  :grin:  !!!

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2004, 05:35:38 PM »
If this is the same road I am thinking of, if you approach it from the Rossie side in the fall or spring and look to the left just past the farmers pasture you will see the chimmey from the old lead mine.  If you walk back there, you will see a lot of quartz where the vein was discovered.  The vein runs up the hill and then crosses under the road.  Quite an interesting place.

There is one more chimmey on the left just before Rossie it is just after the last left hand turn before you get to Rossie.

Hey this is my neck of the woods! :D   My old house was on River Road in Theresa.  

If you head from Redwood towards Theresa and turn left towards Millsite Lake past the road to Lake of the Woods, continue straight, go through the intersection where you turn right to head to Theresa and the old Camp Tousey, wind around until you hit the first right (heads to Rossie) turn right.  There is a little section of state land on the right, right where the old road forks to the right (park there, state land).  There are sand stone diggings on the left from people. Lots of beech and soft hickory back in there and a ton of grays.  Just might be a deer or two..... OK so there used to be quite a few deer there. :roll: A few grouse and snowshoes too.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2004, 01:17:37 AM »
ditb -

you've got it ! that's the trail. some of the locals call it the 'lead mines road', most maps call it the rossie - redwood trail.

that road where you turn right to go to rossie is called hart flats road, if you go straight past that road to the end of it (cottage hill road) you will find my place eventually. you have to drive up the trail about 1/4 of a mile to get to my road which turns down to the lake.

when did you live out here ? do you remember knorrs ?, it may have been speck's when you were here.

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 05:34:07 AM »
I lived there from 90-99.  Hunted all around the area.  I don't remember the people your talking about.  Fished Black Lake quite a bit too.  Had a guy at the start of the Theresa Rossie road that did not hunt turkey and let hunt is land every spring.  Nice guy!
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2004, 09:35:13 AM »
Alabama Outlaw First let me say welcome. I'm sure you were joking about SG. My definition of woodsman is one that has the knowledge and ability to survive in the woods. That doesn't require one to actually make life uncomfortable, just to know how to deal if the situation arises. I recon myself pretty handy in the woods between growing up there and the Army as well as other adventures but I'm perfectly happy to get up a little early and sleep in my nice warm bed at night. I think to be a really good hunter you need to be more than just a good shot.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2004, 03:11:56 PM »
ditb -

i've been up there in redwood since the early '80's when my dad first bought the property from richard pratt. his family and ancestors owned most the land between grass lake and rossie.

he sold most of it off and now owns about just about 100 acres which he lets me use for grouse, etc.

the knorrs i was referring to own the little grocery right in redwood across the street from felders gas station and malones app-inn. the speck's were the previous owners but they retired and sold out to the knorrs in 1985.

i'll bet we saw each other at one of the redwood fire dept field days ??? you had to go to at least one of those ??!!!??

i have been in redwood for over 20 years and i am finally making it my permanent residence, i just like the small town way of life after working in new orleans, LA, and san jose, CA (commuting from NY) for the last two and a half decades. not speaking bad about san jose, but it is so crowded you have no space, or peace and quiet, for yourself.

how did you end up in alaska ?

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2004, 03:23:06 PM »
How?  I was one of those students in high school that did not want to read what the teacher offered, so she finally broke down and let me read hunting and fishing books.  Fred Bear, Jack O'Conner and such.  Flew over six times back and forth to the "Jewel of the Orient" back in 70-72.

Tried to move after college in 90 but the son thought he'd miss his mom and gram so I moved to Theresa and taught in Watertown.  Some #@@#$@$ shot one of my dogs in the fall of 98 so I figure the best way to keep my self out of the electric chair was to move.  I still might go back and shoot him some day.

So I resigned my position and flew up that April, had three job offers and took one teaching in an Eskimo village on the Bering Sea.  Sold everything that would not fit into the pickup and drove up. Taught there in the Eskimo villages, the Yukon River and finally settled into Valdez.  

Short version.........Now I have to suffer eating shrimp, salmon, bear and moose. :)
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