.25 acp......what primer?

[BigWoods]

Just wondering what primer is working the best for you guys. I see Precision Rifle recommends the CCI400 as thier best grouping primer. Has anyone else found that magic primer??? Just getting started and looking forward to the fun.

[IntrepidWizard]

The 25acp is not worth reloading for several reasons,one you can't get it right,two it is not worth it.As small as it is it won't crimp right.

[BigWoods]

The post was for the conversion in an Encore 209x50 black powder rifle. It replaces the 209 primer.

[Keith Lewis]

I was using Winchester standard small rifle primers because I had a lot of them. They seemed to work well but I have not done much development other than rifle primers are a lot better than 209 primers for most of the powder I shoot. Absolutely necessary for 777, better than 209 for American Pioneer Powder or Black Mag3 and not noticable difference for Pyrodex. Much more work to be done. I think the previous post misunderstood the question.

[Redhawk1]

I have only tried the CCI400 and they work great for me. I did not need to try anything else. 1 to 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. Works for me.  

[Wolfhound]

I'm just using the Winchester small rifle primers as thatt's all I can find locally.

[str8shooter48]

I have only tried the CCI400 and they work great for me. I did not need to try anything else. 1 to 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. Works for me.  

I just picked up a 25 ACP conversion but I have not tried it yet. I too will be using CCI400 as I have about 500 of them.

What powder are you using? If 777 did it help with the "Crud Ring"? I like the way 777 shoots, but loading a second shot becomes a challange, and the third is impossible without swabbing the bore.

Our late M/L season ends here next Wednesday. After that I'll have time to expiriment. This year I bought a pound of American Pioneer Powder. Using Win 209 primer and a 235gr. QT40 I had pretty good results. I really don't want to give up on 777 yet. I'm hoping the 25 ACP conversion helps eliminate the 777 issues.

Thanks

[Redhawk1]

I have only tried the CCI400 and they work great for me. I did not need to try anything else. 1 to 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. Works for me.  

I just picked up a 25 ACP conversion but I have not tried it yet. I too will be using CCI400 as I have about 500 of them.

What powder are you using? If 777 did it help with the "Crud Ring"? I like the way 777 shoots, but loading a second shot becomes a challenge, and the third is impossible without swabbing the bore.

Our late M/L season ends here next Wednesday. After that I'll have time to experiment. This year I bought a pound of American Pioneer Powder. Using Win 209 primer and a 235gr. QT40 I had pretty good results. I really don't want to give up on 777 yet. I'm hoping the 25 ACP conversion helps eliminate the 777 issues.

Thanks

str8shooter48, I am still using triple7. I am using Precision Rifles 195 gr. DC sabots and able to load up to 3 or 4 shots before the barrel gets dirty enough that is make it a little harder to load. But I am able with a little effort to load more than 4 shots. I have a little crud ring after shooting 3 to 4 shots in a row without using a spit patch between shots. But nothing like what I was getting with one shot of triple7 and 209 primers. I was not able to load the second shot without almost breaking the ram rod.  :eek:

[BigWoods]

I'll start with the 400's to get a load worked up then mix in the other primers I have available. I'm curious to check out some CCI small rifle bench rest primers I have along with some others. I'm going to be using 777 and some precision Rifle bullets. I have a small variety to try out but I'm really hoping the 195gr duplex bullets shoot as good as I've been hearing. Right now I have an Encore 209x50 with the QLA removed and the .25acp breech plug. I'd like to get the trigger worked and a hinge pin yet. I'm sure it'll shoot better than I can. Thanks for the help and suggestions.

[str8shooter48]

Redhawk. Thanks for the imput on the conversion and 777. I'm glad to hear it was positive experience. I'll give the conversion and 777 a try after the season.

Thanks