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Offline clyde72

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« on: December 16, 2004, 08:17:04 PM »
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Ok I don't get this I just got around to reading some of the newspapers that I haven't been able to read in the last few weeks and saw this on a story.  After some research I found that the DC sniper was using a gun he stole (shoplifted) from Bull's Eye Shooter Supply.

Some of the victims family's sued Bull's Eye Shooter Supply and Bushmaster because that is where the snipers got the gun.  Bushmaster paid out $550,000 and Bull's Eye Shooter Supply $2 million.

Why oh Why did either one settle??  It wasn't Bull's Eye Shooter Supply  or Bushmaster's fault that some one stole a gun and went on a shooting spree.  I am sorry for all the victims and their families and friends of this deranged person's actions!!  However neither Bushmaster nor Bull's Eye Shooter Supply was responsible for this.  When are we going to stop blaming everyone but the guilty for their actions in this great nation?!!

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2004, 08:43:29 PM »
Well I dunno. I don't have enough details on the matter to really comment intelligently on this but would like to offer one comment anyway. The killers used a rifle. I'm not all that familiar with the Bushmaster but I think it's more or less an AR15 clone? If so it seems to me that the place it was shop lifted from might have been a tad negligent if someone can just walk out with a rifle and them not be aware.

Clearly I don't know enough details to say more than that general statement but I do know in the gun shops in this area you'd be mightly darn hard pressed to shop lift a rifle and I don't think you would a handgun either. Better control is exercised. Now had it been a robbery where they came in and took it by force I'd look on this differently. But geez a gun store really does own themselves and the public a certain level of security.

Now the manufacturer? Sure can't see any blame there. And if I knew more details I might agree none to the store it was taken from.


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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2004, 11:51:42 PM »
Some years back the shop I dealt with had an incident where a customer was buying a hard, 2 gun case. The sales/display area was long & narrow so the merchadise was scattered over quite a long strip. Anyway, the customer brings the case to the register, price sticker up so the clerk can read it without moving the case. Call it premonition or suspicion or whatever but  the clerk picked up the case to slide it onto the counter and it felt like something was inside. Opening it, he found a M700 Remington and a double barrel shotgun, both removed from the used gun rack. The customer naturally had no idea how those guns got inside the case and couldn't tell by the weight that there were 2 guns inside, Yeah, right.

I'm not trying to defend the dealer in the DC sniper case, just showing that guns can disappear from a shop and many times there is no explanation for the disappearance. If my friend hadn't checked that gun case he would never have been able to explain where those two guns went.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2004, 04:21:12 AM »
I don't recall many "facts" from the case but I do recall hearing that the gunshop had been in trouble with the ATF in the past for numerous violations including "losing" many weapons and bound book "descrepencies".  I can tell you from managing a gun shop for years this is a bad thing  :eek: .  Stolen weapons are one thing, "losing them" is unaceptable to the ATF.  They should have been notified when it was noticed they were missing.

I'm sure it was cheaper for both companies to settle rather than having a knock-down, drag out in court.  Sad but true in todays age of litigation.

BTW - Not to harp on the idea but, they were murders, NOT snipers.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2004, 06:55:50 PM »
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BTW - Not to harp on the idea but, they were murders, NOT snipers.


Yes that is correct they were murders!!  I re-read my post and can't belive I fell into calling them what the media called them.

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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2004, 09:38:11 AM »
I'm guessing that the insurance underwriters opted to pay off as it is often the cheapest way to resolve a dispute.

The other option is to litigate the case with all the normal appeals and even if you prevail who pays? Who do you go after to recover your cost?

This case is a prime example and argument for tort reform.