Question for Graybeard

[Steelbanger]

Regarding your recent experience with T/C and the UPS requirement to ship handguns overnight – Aren't FFL holders allowed to ship handguns via the US Postal Service? If my memory serves me at all (sometimes it doesn't), I seem to remember that handguns can be sent through the mail if the shipper & receiver both have FFL's.

Inquiring minds need to know.

Merry Christmas

[bgjohn]

Right on bro'. I'm an FFL and ship & recieve handguns legally via U.S. Mail frequently. Q.E.D.
JM

[rickyp]

if you are shipping an encore or contender you can always ship ship the fame with out grip and for end in one box and ship the barrels in a second box.
there is no real way to tell if the frame is a handgun rifle as long you do not have a grip.
this is the way I shipped my frames to t/c for check up and repair.

[Lawful Larry]

Anyone can ship by US mail.  I send back guns to the manufacturer all the time.  I don't have a UPS drop off center close to me so I can only send by way of the USPS.  You don't have to be an FFL holder to ship a gun through the mail!   :wink:

[bgjohn]

Anyone can ship by US mail.  I send back guns to the manufacturer all the time.  I don't have a UPS drop off center close to me so I can only send by way of the USPS.  You don't have to be an FFL holder to ship a gun through the mail!   :wink:

1/2 Wrong!
JM

[Lawful Larry]

HOW!

[bgjohn]

HOW!

You can ship a long gun but not a handgun. You can ship a handgun if you are a FFL holder. Check the postal regs.
JM

[cnTndr85]

HOW!

This is how,

Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service? [Back]
A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.


But, if you have an FFL..............

Licensed persons can ship a rifle, shotguns, or handguns by US Mail. In fact, we suggest that you use the USPS as it is now the most cost-effective way to ship a handgun. To ship a rifle or shotgun, you need only inform the Post Office that the package contains a firearm. A licensed manufacturer, dealer, or importer can ship a handgun via the US Post Office if the licensed dealer fills out a US Post Office Form PS 1508 and files it with the local Post Office branch where the handgun is to be shipped. You can search the US Post Offer Postal Explorer site for specific USPS regulations regarding firearms and ammunition.

I always go through my local dealer when I need to ship a handgun, may cost you a few bucks but it beats having the Feds breathin down your neck!
Mark

[bgjohn]

Thank you cnTndr85.
JM :grin:

[Lawful Larry]

HOW!

This is how,

Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service? [Back]
A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.


But, if you have an FFL..............

Licensed persons can ship a rifle, shotguns, or handguns by US Mail. In fact, we suggest that you use the USPS as it is now the most cost-effective way to ship a handgun. To ship a rifle or shotgun, you need only inform the Post Office that the package contains a firearm. A licensed manufacturer, dealer, or importer can ship a handgun via the US Post Office if the licensed dealer fills out a US Post Office Form PS 1508 and files it with the local Post Office branch where the handgun is to be shipped. You can search the US Post Offer Postal Explorer site for specific USPS regulations regarding firearms and ammunition.

I always go through my local dealer when I need to ship a handgun, may cost you a few bucks but it beats having the Feds breathin down your neck!
Mark

Well I went to the site that you got the info from, but the only question I still have is why doesn't the lousy atf tell the manufacturers this info.  I have been told by both Ruger and Colt to send my revolvers back to them by USPS!!??!!  I have done this at least a half a dozen times over the years.  I also have told the post office what is in the package and that the gun is safe with not ammo in the case.  

If I got warranty work on my handguns why does the manufacturers tell us to send it USPS??

This is the kind of $h*^ that pisses off the average citizen.   :?  :x