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Offline thelaw

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.25/06 load, which one would you choose?
« on: December 07, 2004, 04:13:27 PM »
went to the range today with some 100gr. Barnes tsx and some 115gr. nosler partition handloads. both shot great out of my ruger m77r. this is the older style ruger with the tang safety. anyway, i'm at confused as to which load to use on a couple of upcoming whitetail hunts. the long shot is a definite possibility on both hunts. i shot several loads with each bullet style, while most all shot good, here are the results of the best of both styles:

Barnes 100gr. TSX , avg. velocity 3389fps., .875" group at 100yards

Nosler 115gr. Partition, avg. velocity 3092fps., .9375" group at 100yards

based on ballistic tables i've seen, both have similar energy out to 400yards. the only difference is of course the TSX shoots a little flatter, but not enough to really matter. so, which one would you go with.
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TSX vs Partition
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 04:15:18 AM »
Me personally, I go with the 100 gr. TSX bullets, but the reason is I have not found  
a load for the Partition, that gives me groups like the TSX.  My best Partiton load,
does on average, for a 5 shot group, 1.5 MOA.  The TSX 100 gr. bullets, average
.75 MOA.  I have taken several whitetails, with 130 gr X bullets, fired from my  
.308 Win chambered Savage Striker, and am sold on Barnes X bullet performance.
I am waiting to see the on game performance of the 100 gr. TSX bullets, out of the
.25-06 Rem., but I have little doubt they will perform as well as the X bullets did.
 
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 07:07:40 AM »
I'd go with the Nosler Partition. I use the 120 grain Nosler Partition in my 25-06 which yields me .75" 3 shot groups. I've heard reports (no first hand info) that on thin skin game such as deer, that sometimes there is inadequate expansion with the Barnes TSX bullets. Some fragmentation which is what you get with the Partition opens up additional wound channels.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2004, 12:05:50 PM »
thelaw,

After just completing a successful big game season where our family used nothing but the TSX bullets in many different calibers, I say go with the TSX over the Partition.  The 100 gr. TSX will penetrate as well as the 120 gr. Partition and be flatter shooting on top of the accuracy is just proving to be better.  My daughter in-law used the 100 gr. TSX in her .25 WSSM to take two nice bucks and a 230 lb. Wild Boar.  All one shot kills with exit wounds about 2 to 2 1/2 inches in diameter.  I used to use nothing but Nosler Partitions but the accuracy and penetrating power of the TSX is changing my mind.  Lawdog
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2004, 07:07:38 AM »
Not trying to be difficult here, but why not try the 115 TSX bullets.  They have a higher SD and DC than the 100 grain models.  They have worked very well for me, as have the hornady 117g BTSP's.

Diameter Weight Description S.D. B.C. CAT#  
    .257"     100 gr   TSX BT  .216 .420  25742
    .257"     115 gr   TSX FB  .249 .429  25743


Just a thought.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2004, 10:59:34 AM »
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but why not try the 115 TSX bullets


The main reason is you don't need the tougher 115 gr. TSX for deer.  When a 100 gr. TSX exits a 270 plus pound Wild Boar at 230 yards a deer is no problem at all.  In fact I am not sure the 115 gr. TSX would expand on deer size critters.  Lawdog
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 11:39:29 AM »
I know what your saying Lawdog, but I have personally seen the results.  I worry what would happen to that 100g pill if were to hit the shoulder bones.  I'm sure it probably would do fine, but I haven't seen that yet.  What have you seen with these on bone?  We always used the 117g hornady's, and when the TSX's came out we just naturally switched to them.  There are five of us on our club shooting .257 bullets.  Four are 25-06's and one is a 257 Wea. Mag.  We have all shot deer this year, and the results of the TSX's have been great.  All one shot kills, and three that just fell over dead at the shot.  Granted we have always had good results with our 25's, but switching to the TSX's has certainly not hurt anything.

Just my observations, interested to hear yours if you have time.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2004, 11:54:32 AM »
270Handiman,

So far none of us has hit the shoulder on a deer but my son busted a 182 lb. sow hog that turned just as he shot.  The 100 gr. TSX out of his .25-06 entered behind the left foreleg, cutting a rib and ruining the heart.  The bullet exited taking out the right leg just above the joint.  The exit wound was about 2 1/2 inches across.  Range was about 140 - 150 yards, as stepped off by my son, and the one shot did it's job.  If that bullet worked that well on a hogs leg bone I don’t think any deer will prove to be a problem.  This is just one of the reason’s we are switching to TSX bullets.  Lawdog
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2004, 06:30:43 PM »
Well dang, now I want to try the 100g loads just to see.  I know I'd be gaining a few FPS, for whatever thats worth.  

Its funny how one day you know something, and the next day your not sur about what you thought you knew the day before??????????

Anyway, thanks for the heads up.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2004, 07:28:38 AM »
Lawdog:

Wow...I know you always stood by the Noslers...and your liking the TSX over them...is saying something...I guess I'll have to give them a try in my new 25-06Ultra Handi and see how they do...what's you load for them...have you tried Rloader #22 with them???

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2004, 11:01:56 AM »
Mac11700,

I have just this year started trying Reloader 22.  The load we(my son and I) used this year is 54.8 gr. of RE22 for 3,302 fps. out of our 26" barreled Rugers.  Normally I use H1000 or H4831sc(I like the way the SC meters thru my measure) but a friend gave me some Reloader 22 and it’s working nicely.  Always nice to have a couple of different powders to fall back on in case one should run out.  Lawdog
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2004, 01:44:17 PM »
RL #22 was my powder of choice for my 25-06 for over 10 years and then I found RL #19, by far the load using RL #19 is the most accurate and it runs right around 3340fps with a 100gr Sierra and Fed GM215M primers.............................................................................Triple4
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2004, 05:45:37 AM »
Lawdog:

When I start my winter reloading sessions...I'll give both the Triple Shocks and RE-22 a try...seems like it should work out...but it will be hard to not use the Partitions as well :wink:

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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2004, 09:14:06 AM »
Mac,

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but it will be hard to not use the Partitions


Tell me about it.  When I first stated using Barnes bullets I used to carry a box of Partition loads in my pack just to be safe.   :-D   Lawdog
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