Right you are, Lloyd. Also, the right load will make a big difference. I'll have lots of time over the next year to expiriment with different loads and powders. Right now I'm using AA5 but there's a bunch of powders available for the 45 Colt. Its gonna be a fun project to work on. As for that grip, the middle finger on my right hand is FAT, from doing physical labor all my life, and I gotta be careful about keeping my knuckle away from the trigger guard. It takes about 25 round for the message to start getting delivered in a big way!