Author Topic: Scope mount bedding...oops!! (Read 1204 times)

redneckd1 · « **on:** January 03, 2005, 05:43:53 AM »

I think I may have hosed my son's gun! I was reading on this great forum about all the ways to improve the handi rifles. I bought him a new scope for Christmas and decided to bed the mount while I was at it. I used JB weld and applied the release agent (Pam) before putting the mount on the barrel. I have now permanently attached the scope mount with JB weld! The release agent didn't work, the mount is stuck! I really don't think it will hurt anything unless he wanted to put on a different mount some time in the future. Any ideas on why it didn't release and should it have any ill effects on the guns accuracy? Thx guys, lots of great info on this forum and I'll be using it often trying to get my son the most accurate rifle I can!
Thx,
R

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2005, 06:35:00 AM »

I've read of others that had similar problems, they put the barreled action in a freezer for a while, then tapped the mount with a block of wood or a protected hammer and it may come loose, assuming you can remove the screws first. I've had to drill screws out before, no fun.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2005, 06:37:58 AM »

DI, it won't hurt accuracy in any way as long as it is straight and level. Unknown why the base did not release after the JB Weld cured, perhaps there was not enough PAM on the barrel. There should never be any need for another scope rail (base) since these H&R rails are great. If you do need to take it off I would suggest heating the area well with a heat gun and getting it HOT or slowly getting it to temperature by fanning with a propane torch, do not get it anywhere near any temperature that would discolor or ruin the barrel or finish, after that with the barrel held securely in a large strong vise strike the rail sharply using a large hammer to strike a large drift or of some sort, perhaps and old large chisel with a dulled edge. Be prepared to replace the aluminum scope rail after any hits, you will not be able to save it. The BEST thing to do is leave it and know you have a solid base for you scope to sit on!!!!....<><.... :grin:

P.S. - I like Quicks method better, if you must (why?) try the freezer and block of (hard)wood as a drift first!!!

v8r · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2005, 07:02:04 AM »

leave it alone,that sucker won't shoot loose for anything now.The factory scope rail is more than you will ever need.Yoc can't beat a weaver style rail for strength.It isn't the prettiest set up,but who cares when it gets the job done.

jeff223 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2005, 07:27:26 AM »

just use and shoot the gun,nothing wrong with a fixed scope base.

if you decide to do another scope base use STP on the barrel and not pam.the STP will never fail,it will always release.bad thing about useing STP is its hard to get off the metal when your done

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2005, 07:37:16 AM »

A lot of shooters use paste shoe polish as a release agent, never have a problem with it and it's something most folks have on hand......don't even ask what color!!!! :-D :roll:

redneckd1 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2005, 08:08:20 AM »

Ummm...what color shoe paste??? I had to ask;o} Thx for the responses guys, I think I will just leave it as is, I don't see any reason to take it off as it is level and very, very secure!! I floated the barrel with a rubber O ring as well, this rifle should shoot really well now. My son missed a doe and a 4 point this past week because the scope was a POS and the rings were loose. He did get a small doe once he compensated for low shooting. I am so impressed with this little gun, I'm thinking of giving up my Ruger 77 MkII and getting either one of these or an Encore.
If I want to get another barrel for this gun do I have to send it to the factory or can a just buy the barrel and slap it on? What about a ambidextrious thumbhole stock, anybody make one??
Thx again guys,
R

riddleofsteel · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2005, 10:11:23 AM »

I agree on the leave it alone now advice. However if you HAVE to remove it. Remove the screws, put the barrel in a deep freeze overnight, when you take it out rap the scope mount with a nylon mallet. It should break loose. I had a rifle that some nimrod benchrest shooter had GLUED into the synthetic stock with epoxy glue. I tried freezing it in my chest freezer and it did not work. I ended up buying several pounds of dry ice and packing the action and barrel in the dry ice for several hours. I kept the stock at near room temperature by putting the ice in a long tray and turning the rifle stock up and resting the metal in the ice. A couple of sharp raps on the end of the barrel and tang with a nylon mallet and the bond broke lose. A little trimming and I bolted the barrel/action right back into the stock after wiping it with some oil. Best bedding job I ever had.