WildBill: at $24 for 20 I would get into the reloading business real quick, if you're not there already. If you do, I know which direction you're going to be headed in. Years ago, the older Lyman reloading manuals introducted reloading with a comparison of economies of scale - that is, how much you would save by reloading your own. With the advent of inexpensive ammunition from european manufacturers and even less expensive reloads from American manufacturers, some folks wonder why they should consider reloading. I think the 454 is one good reason. Mikey.