50gr Hornady V-Max moly, 40.5 grs H 414, Win cases neck turned. Win wlr primers. Seated .005 off the lands. Shoots 1/4" all day.( Loads are all checked for runout on a Sinclair concentricty guage) Yep! good loads take some work, and good equipment. This load also works well with 52 gr. Berger/moly MEF.