Author Topic: .25-20 for CAS (Read 659 times)

kevin.303 · « **on:** December 30, 2004, 05:37:45 PM »

this spring i'm taking my tax refund and buying an original '92 Winchester in .25-20 WCF. is the this cartridge CAS legal? i'm buying it mainly for target shooting and rabbit hunting but i've always wanted to take up cowboy shooting.

leverfan · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2004, 07:51:07 PM »

Kevin-

Yep, that's the minimum chambering. It might not work on some knock down targets, depending on what club you're shooting at, and what their target set up is. The '92 is not legal for all classes of cowboy shooting, but it will work for most. You might be better off, from a competition standpoint, to buy a 357/38. How much do those '92s run where you are? My gunshop has two in 25-20, as of now.

My wife is the one that has a complete battery right now, but I will get going pretty soon. My rifle will be a '73 reproduction in 38 WCF, and my pistols are apt to be '75 Remington reproductions, also in 38 WCF, loaded with black powder. We'll see.

kevin.303 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2005, 05:39:36 PM »

well up here i've seen them as cheap as $450 and as high as $700. Canadian. both where in very nice condition, but the pricing really depends on how out of touch with reality the seller is. whats the average price down there?

leverfan · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2005, 09:44:36 PM »

Quote from: kevin.303

well up here i've seen them as cheap as $450 and as high as $700. Canadian. both where in very nice condition, but the pricing really depends on how out of touch with reality the seller is. whats the average price down there?

Let's put it this way: it sounds like you could make a lot of money buying '92s in Canada and selling them in the US. The price range you give for originals is about what we pay for replicas down here. An all original 92, in good shape, can easily be priced over $1000, USD. If you're looking at getting an original take-down in really good shape, in an unusual caliber, and the metal has its original finish, the asking price could double, depending on local markets. Gun Broker has a few originals, and the prices are all over the place, depending on condition.

kevin.303 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2005, 01:47:55 PM »

that price range was only for .25-20's. the bigger more popular calibers might cost more. i've noticed with a few other guns you get a radical price difference as well. on another forum a guy from Idaho was bragging about how he picked up a good condition AG42b Ljungmann for only $650 US dollars. from his pics it was in slightly worse condition than mine. he was shocked to learn i only paid $220 Cdn for mine and i've never seen them above $300 Cdn. :grin:

leverfan · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2005, 04:01:45 PM »

There are two 25-20 model 92s in my local shop. One is a take down, but the bore is in bad shape. The other is a saddle ring carbine, and a decent shooter. Neither have original finish, and one doesn't have the original front sight. They are consignment priced at $850 and $1000, or there abouts. The prices are high for refinished guns, so the guns aren't going anywhere.

kevin.303 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2005, 05:13:02 PM »

Ouch!! here, i'll give you the link to the pic of the '92 for $450 CDN, and you tell me if looks better than the ones your local shop has for sale.

http://www.mdgardner.com/guns/Win92-.25-20.jpg

nice huh? NRA rating is very good. hopefully he still has it when i've got enough dough.

leverfan · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2005, 05:40:47 PM »

If the bore on that rifle is good, and it's a good shooter, then it's one heck of a good price. I'll be sticking with EMF replicas for now, though. Cheap, I can shoot them without fear of ruining collector value, and they even look nice. Like the originals, there's no extra safety to worry about. Are all guns cheaper up there in Canada, or is there some special reason that 92s go so cheap?

kevin.303 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2005, 05:48:13 PM »

well, i figure because of our screwy handgun laws there is no where the level of interest in cowboy shooting up here. in many cases guns are cheaper in the states, with a few exceptions. some milsurps, mainly .303's and AG42's for some reason, and the norinco M14's and 1911's, because there is no embargo so we get the new and greatly improved versions. as for that '92 it is local to John Y Cannuck so if i get that one i might ask him real nice if he'll check out the bore for me. and if that doesn't work i'll bribe with a bottle of grog. :grin: