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Offline legolas

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« on: January 06, 2005, 09:30:12 AM »
I have been loading for quite awhile now and have heavily relied on Lee equipment as I was one of em' guys that started on the cheap. One of the first things that I have learned is that sometimes you do get what you pay for. This is the case with my Lee Perfect Powder Measure. In my load development I have found out that it leaks powder by as much as 0.5 grains!!!! I am thinking of purchasing a new Powder measure from Redding - specifically their Model 3 with Universal and Handgun meetering chambers. Am I on the right track here? Opinions anyone?

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2005, 09:48:14 AM »
Yes, I replaced mine. Check ebay sometimes you can get a good deal RCBS also makes a good scale. Do you reload shotshells? If yes you will need a 1000 gr. scale. Also get a set of check weights.

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2005, 05:24:38 PM »
I've used a Lyman #55 Powder Measure since I first started reloading over 40 years ago... and it's still going strong… and is still as accurate and easy to use as it ever was.

There are three powder adjustments… “coarse, medium and fine”… on the metering shaft that you set to "throw" the amount of powder you wish.

Once you have the three adjustments set and the powder measure is throwing the desired amount of powder, you can further regulate the amount thrown by "tapping" the Measure's handle against the upper final stop 2-4 times to settle the powder before each 'throw", I find it gives me very consistent powder "throws" each time.

This "tapping" packs the powder slightly and I've found one can "throw" almost a perfect weight of powder every time you "throw" a load.  As the powder hopper empties and the "thrown" powder charges get slightly lighter, you can increase the "thrown" powder charge weight slightly by merely increasing the number of powder dispenser handle's "taps".

I usually try to set my Lyman #55 Powder Measure to throw the desired amount of powder using 2-3 "handle taps".  Then when the powder hopper goes down as I throw load after load, I add one or two more "taps" to maintain the powder weight thrown.

When reloading pistol cartridges, I "throw" the powder directly into handgun cases, weighing every 5th and then, after 20 cartridges, every 10th charge once I have the powder measure properly adjusted.  I prefer to weigh each powder charge when reloading my rifle's cartridges.

Yes, I "know"... that's being "ultra-picky"... but I am a rifleman and want every load to be as perfect as possible so that I get as much accuracy as my rifle and my ability will allow.

Once you have the Lyman #55 set up & use a consistent number of "handle taps", it will consistently throw powder charges very accurately... usually ± ¼ of 1/10th of a grain (±.025 grains).  This small amount of "difference" is totally acceptable to most shooters.

When loading for rifle, I always set the Lyman #55 to throw a slightly lighter amount of powder than I actually want to use.  I throw the powder directly into my powder scale's powder pan, then put the powder pan on the scale to check it's weight.

I then take a "pinch" of powder between my clean, dry fore-finger & thumb... and "dribble" a few powder granules at a time into the powder pan while carefully watching the scale's pointer slowly move up to "zero" mark on the powder scale.

This way, I'm very sure that I have the EXACT weight of powder to dump into the cartridge case.     :-)


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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2005, 01:28:45 AM »
you can adjust the contact pressure of the wiper on the Lee measure to eliminate the leaks.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2005, 04:46:53 AM »
I've got the same Redding powder measure and I really like it. I've got the universal chamber and the pistol chamber.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2005, 06:33:21 AM »
jgalar,
     Yes I have done that. This would be tightening the screw on the side plate which will also increase the force necessary to turn the dispenser handle - it does not seem to do any good. I even cut off the bottom tab so that the drum can be turned almost completely vertical so that the last of the remaining powder that cling on the bottom of the drum can be emptied. In frustration I am concluding that this product is just too cheaply made (quality wise) for any reloader that loads over 5,000 rounds of ammo a year. The dispenser when set up with the steel stand that comes with it flexes annoyingly during dispensing and it takes away that "feeling" of consistency and confidence that is so necessary when working up suitable loads. I am sorry if I sound frustrated with this product - because I am :evil: .

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2005, 07:00:00 AM »
I like the Lyman #55 powder measure also. I just tap it once at the top and once at the bottom. It throws very acurate loads especially with ball powders. I only measure the first and last loads. I drop my powder directly into my cases. The #55 is the best I've ever used and I tried quite a few.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2005, 07:07:50 AM »
The Reddings are definately worth the money in my book. I've got the BR-30, as well as the 10-X. Both of these are competition models, and either one throws charges with some powders as accurately as hand weighed charges. They'll throw nearly any powders within .1 grains.

I'll admit though that I only throw ball, flake, and very fine extruded through these measures, and try to steer clear of the larger extruded. I use my RCBS for the big stuff, and then trickle up on the scale.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2005, 07:23:48 AM »
Try a JDS Quick Measure. I have been using this measure for some time. It will not cut powder and is accurate to within .1 grains with 4350 and 4831. available from JDS at www.quick-measure.com