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Offline Buckskin

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« on: March 07, 2005, 11:10:07 AM »
I'm thinking of getting a 22-250 barrel for my encore which now has a ML barrel on it. If I do, I'm going to get a thumbhole laminate stock as well.
This should run about $550. Should I go this route, or buy a nice bolt action 22-250 instead for about the same $$. I've always been partial to remington, but would love some input.

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 12:15:37 PM »
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I'm thinking of getting a 22-250 barrel for my encore which now has a ML barrel on it. If I do, I'm going to get a thumbhole laminate stock as well.
This should run about $550. Should I go this route, or buy a nice bolt action 22-250 instead for about the same $$. I've always been partial to remington, but would love some input.

Thanks,
Buckskin
...........I would prefer a seperate bolt action gun and I have had good luck with older-pre-lock Remingtons for accuracyand fuction......I have seen some encores shoot great in some calibers but usually with a lot of work or that rare great one out of the box that all gun manu. make sometimes in prodution guns...........and many of them have to be resighted after barrel switch to get back to zero.......good luck and good shooting!!

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 12:29:55 PM »
If you really love that Encore, get the extra barrel. But don't kid yourself, you will never realize the potential accuracy of this fine round, unless you buy a heavy barreled bolt gun. Like bigdaddytacp said, an older Remington varmint model is the best deal. Mine shoots everything I put in it so well, it's spooky.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2005, 12:43:10 PM »
I got to agree with ramrod on this one.....go for the new heavy barrel bolt gun.........everyone loves to get a new rifle!    It's a given that the 22.250 is most likely to acheive its full potential in a good bolt gun.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2005, 08:30:59 AM »
Buckskin,

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This should run about $550.


For about the same money you can get the most accurate, out of the box factory rifle being made today - Savage.  Then you could really see what a .22-250 can do.  Lawdog
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2005, 09:01:17 AM »
Sorry Lawdog, but here is my opinion about the $550. For about the same money you can get the ugliest, cheapest looking, worst re-sale value out of the box factory rifle being made today-Savage.
If you start with a Savage, thats all you will have in the end!
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2005, 10:44:22 AM »
i strongly agree with ramrod.  plus to see full potential, it is actually better out of a single shot, becuase you get correct bullet placement every time.  that is why semi autos are innacurate.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 09:56:49 AM »
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Sorry Lawdog, but here is my opinion about the $550. For about the same money you can get the ugliest, cheapest looking, worst re-sale value out of the box factory rifle being made today-Savage.
If you start with a Savage, thats all you will have in the end!


Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.  Anything that shoots as well as a Savage isn't that ugly.  What IS ugly is a rifle that is so pretty to look at but won't group bullets at all.  It patterns them.  Now that is ugly.  As far as re-sale goes I have yet to see a used newer model Savage in the commission rack at any of the sporting goods stores around.  You can find Remington, Ruger, Sako, and Winchester's most any time you look but none of the newer Savages.  And they ARE selling very well too according to the store owners.  There are many that just can’t afford a new high dollar rifles but they can afford a Savage and they are buying them.  You may not like them but they do exactly what they were designed to do and do it very well.  Lawdog
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 10:03:14 AM »
it is true about the poor resale value of the savages.  sure they sell well, but that is becuase they are cheap.  come trade in time you will get your head bit off.  sure, they do shoot well, but why not have a good looking remington and shoot even better, like mine.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 10:29:29 AM »
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but why not have a good looking remington and shoot even better, like mine.


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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2005, 05:41:56 AM »
I don't know about you guys, looks like the savages are going up as well.
I have not got to handle one, but the remington SPS for around $375-400 appeals more to me for a cheap rifle.  Everytime I have owned a savage guys look at like "oh boy" but they will shoot.  Resale is probably worst I have seen.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2005, 05:48:25 AM »
Resale is not an issue for me, I've never sold a gun in my life.
And Remington has always been good to me.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2005, 07:13:18 AM »
Lawdog, I don't think we are going to convince Ramrod, or Greybeard for that matter, that the Savage is the best out of the box shooter going at present time.........I was at the range Tuesday, and the number of Savages showing up is amazing........Most of the guys at the range agree that the Savage is the best value for the money.........Most own several Savages and tell me that until the other manufactures improve the trigger and accuracy, as well as lower prices, the Savage will be the only thing they will be buying.........I told them about the post on the internet about being ugly and they don't care, because they shoot small groups.......Of course, what do we redneck, hillbilly Tennesseans know about accuracy?........ I'd bet you Alvin York would pick the Savage as well........of course he was a practical kind of guy......
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2005, 09:27:56 AM »
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Lawdog, I don't think we are going to convince Ramrod, or Greybeard for that matter, that the Savage is the best out of the box shooter going at present time.........I was at the range Tuesday, and the number of Savages showing up is amazing........Most of the guys at the range agree that the Savage is the best value for the money.........Most own several Savages and tell me that until the other manufactures improve the trigger and accuracy, as well as lower prices, the Savage will be the only thing they will be buying.........I told them about the post on the internet about being ugly and they don't care, because they shoot small groups.......Of course, what do we redneck, hillbilly Tennesseans know about accuracy?........ I'd bet you Alvin York would pick the Savage as well........of course he was a practical kind of guy......


Victor,

I agree.  I didn’t buy into the Savage accuracy either until my son bought one and the first three sight-in shots went into a group measuring a hair over 0.3”.  I though it was an accident but the groups remained throughout the sighting in process.  Seeing that I was thinking about getting one of the WSM cartridges anyway and a good deal came up on a Savage package combination(rifle’s scope was busted during shipping) that was in .270 WSM I figured why not.  This rifle is what really changed my mind.  For a low cost hunting rifle the groups started out at 0.75” and only got better with load work.  I have a number of rifles that I have had to do a lot of work on to get them to shoot anywhere near that.  And you’re right about seeing more and more Savage rifles showing up at the range.  Not just the hunting group either.  The last silhouette turkey shoot our club held there were a number of Savage rifles represented and they won their share of the prizes.  Lawdog
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