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Offline Jack Ryan

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« on: January 11, 2005, 05:17:21 PM »
Took the trigger assembly apart to attempt one of those trigger jobs.

Man that's a lot of pieces, springs and STUFF I didn't know was in there.

Any suggestions on what to do now?

A good sorce of reassembly instructions?

It's a 223 handi rifle if they are not all the same.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 05:38:48 PM »
Jack
As far as I know they are all the same.  Try Perklo's Site He is a wealth of experience in these matters.

By the way, this link came from the FAQ section at the top of this forum.  GB has a wealth of knowledge here as well.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 06:55:28 PM »
Jack.
Looking down on the barrel and action. The three bottom pins are driven out from right to left. I hope you only punched out these three. The two higher pins are not needed to be punched out for a trigger job.

You have all the parts out. Turn the action upside down.
1. Install the hammer first and drive the pin in to the hammer so the pin sticks out of the hammer just a bit. Now you take the hammer spring and hook it over the pin. The Hammer spring  has a long and a short  leg. The short leg goes against the hammer and the long leg to the outside with the long leg to the bottom.
Now put the pin al the way in but don't completely seat it.

2. On the hammer there is a little stud and the shot leg of the spring is hooked under the stud. Now take a flat screw driver and bring the long leg up and over and hook it under edge of the frame.
Now you have tension on the hammer. install the hammer extension, pull the hammer back and tie it back in the most rearward position on the extension. Make sure it stays put.

Next you make a small wood wedge and put it under the latch button to keep it all the way up and the barrel latch forward.

3. Put the small trigger return spring the hole on the back of the trigger guard housing. Now you need a small slave pin the same width as the housing and not too tight. Put the trigger in and slide the slave in. Watch the little spring when you do that  so it does not fly into orbit..
The trigger has  a horse shoe type attachment. the open horse shoe is to the front and fits on to a mall rivit on the bottom.
the hole lines up withe hole in the trigger. All this is held together with the slave pin.

4. If you have a padded vise put the action in on a 45 deg angle with the front of the action on top. Now take the latch compression spring and put a little tab of contact cement on the bottom of the spring and put the sprin into the hole of the rigger guard.

Take the whole trigger guard assembly and put in place by pressing forward with the latch spring against the latch. Take your small pin punch and find the front pin hole. Now take the rear pin and drive out the slave pin. from left to right with the knureled end on the left with the action upside down

You are done.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 07:01:55 PM »
Fred,
He got the message

He got the message

He got the message :grin:
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 07:07:06 PM »
Some thing went hay wire with the thre posts. ???????
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 07:17:45 PM »
Too late to do it right.

(This should have read)I made the mistake of ONLY reading the "sticky" on NEF trigger jobs.

Looked easy so I started in WITH OUT THE SLIGHTEST ATTEMPT AT ANY REASONABLE PERSON MIGHT CONSIDER PROPER PREPARATION AND RESEARCH.

Knocked out a couple pins and stuff didn't come apart, just loosened up a little soLIKE A DUMMY WHO DIDN'T TAKE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS I knocked out ALL THE REST OF THE PINS. To late to undo "stupid" so I just gotta  get wise from here out.

I just finally finished the down load  from the guys sight who seems to HAVE WRITTEN A BOOK and I'm going to start fresh in the morning. Hopefully a few wounds will heal by then.

PS, I can't even describe how much I hate this project right now. BUT LOVE IT NOW!
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 10:59:10 PM »
Huh?  someone say Haywire?
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2005, 12:53:57 AM »
Sounds like a good excuse to sent it back to the H&R to be put back together and add a new barrel. Now that I have been told no more guns I may have to try to work on another one.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2005, 04:59:59 AM »
Sorry to here things didn't work out as planned. That post is up as a sticky, which means I can't even edit it.  With almost 1500 views I've only had 2 negative responses, to me that seems like good odds. Thought it was pretty detailed info. (maybe not)

I wish the moderators would open it for replies, that way I could see for sure if it's wanted or not.  Be more than happy to totally delete the entire thread if the majority were against having it around.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2005, 05:21:35 AM »
I wouldn't say the post is bad or anything.

May be "brief" would be better.

This is completely my own fault.

A little over confidence from doing trigger work on a couple dozen Marlins mix with a little "just go for it" and skip any hint of "further investigation" and you've got the kitchen table cover with "stuff".

I'm not gonna  give up yet.

Figuring out how those springs fit in there looks like the current crisis.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2005, 07:37:46 AM »
Ah ha! Waaa  Laa!

A down load.
A print job.
And
A good night's sleep.

Has prevailed and lifted the fog of confusion.

Perklo's instructions and diagram illustrations are definately the way to go. Along with the excellant assistance from this board I even overcame my own ineptitude!

That trigger is sweeeet now.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2005, 08:13:25 AM »
Geez Jack...I was about to make you an offer on that basket case frame... :wink:

Glad it worked out for you!

Tim
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2005, 11:33:16 AM »
Thanks.
This is the only NEF I own so I don't have anything for comparison and I didn't notice this before but I may have just not noticed.

Does the button lever you press to open the action rattle just a little when every thing is closed up and the hammer is down? Every thing operates flawlessly and smooth. Quiet, with no clicking or clunking or grinding now when you pull the hammer back.

I tipped it every way possible and hit the butt with my closed fist. Bumped it on the floor and couldn't make the hammer drop in any way other than to touch the trigger.

Boy you don't want to touch that trigger until you have your thumb on the hammer if you are letting it down though.

Just wondering on that one lever feels loose when everything else is locked up tight. I can't see how it could have any spring pressure on it to stop it though.
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2005, 11:40:27 AM »
Jack
Looks like you might have goine a bit too far.  NEF will "fix" that for you when you get a new barrel.

Yes the relaese lever does move a bit when all is closed up.  No prob  that's the way it's supposed to be.  I don't like it though.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2005, 08:07:35 PM »
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Jack
Looks like you might have goine a bit too far.  NEF will "fix" that for you when you get a new barrel.

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Just like when all those parts hit the table, no go'n back now.

I like it just fine the way it is so far.
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