How many GPR Flinters Out There?

[Mulegunner]

Just recently started in this forum and was wondering how many members here are using the GPR Flintlock for hunting and Buckskinning?  And also a big hello from the great white Northern PA Mountains.

[papellet]

Have the GPR flint in 50 cal left hand rifle. Also own three other lymans, all great guns.

[KING]

  .54 flint and caplock...GPR do a good job......54 calplock singleshot.....stay safe...King

[CPTLEO]

Count  me  in


54  flint

[Good time Charlie]

I have the GPR in cap and flint. I got the flinter to late in the season to hunt with it this year. Haven't had the time to get a load worked up for it. I drilled the touch hole out to .062 and the first shot was very fast! But the next and all shots after were slow. It fires much slower than my TC Hawken. I don't know what else to do to get her firing like it should,
                          Old Charlie

[Trapper-Jack]

Charlie
I don't know how your GPR is set up, but if it has a removable touch hole liner, remove the liner and drill the back side of it out to about 1/8" or so.  Don't drill it clear through, but stop just before.  I have two flinters that I have set up this way and often times you can see a grain of powder of the main charge through the touch hole.  If you don't cover the touch hole with prime, the main charge is gone before you have realised that the pan has flashed.

[papellet]

I replaced my touch hole with one from RMC sports, its already coned out on both sides, use them in both my GPR and deerstalker. Seem to work really well.

[D.E.C]

I HAVE ONE. .50CAL, BUILT FROM A KIT. SHOOTS WELL, RELIABLE SPARK. BROWNED THE BARREL AND FIXTURES.

[Naphtali]

Had -- HAD -- L-H .50-caliber GPR. Quality control and, especially design of the lock is appalling. But please read completely. Things are not irretrievable.

Were L&R RPL locks available left-hand the rifle can become a very good medium-priced flintlock. At additional cost and time.

Lyman was very good about the problem. They acknowledged it. They replaced the rifle with a cap lock .54-caliber. While lock design is similar, a cap lock forgives cheap lock designs where a flintlock does not.

One further note. The difference in overall quality between the two rifles was so dramatic, there is a possibility that I bought NEW OLD STOCK flintlock GPR, and replaced it with current manufacture. The flintlock had myriad other QC problems. These could have been overcome by having rifle "refurbished" by ML gun maker. But the cheap lock needs replacement.

When this problem was current for me, I identified what was wrong, item-by-item, in this forum. You can do an archive search for the product to view my comments.

Summary:

The company LYMAN is good about problems with their products. This means a lot. Quality control, from my two examples, has improved significantly and is now acceptable.

Flint lock design is based upon cap lock, not the other way. So what occurred is a lock designed for low manufacturing costs -- that works acceptably -- was engineered to become a more complex machine. This does not work out well, especially when compared with any L&R or Pedersoli Mortimer S.438 flintlock.

That people have GPR flintlocks that function acceptably does not alter the fact of cheap, non-durable design.

[Birddog6]

I think of the GPR a little differently.....  I have shot an old GPR for years & it is still all original & I have shot over 5000 rounds thru it.  Still original frizzen & lock & trigger & I have never had a problem with it.  No it is not fancy, the lock is not as good as a Chambers, L&R or a lock built buy a company that bases if livelyhood on Locks.....  And no the trigger is not smooth a Timney trigger.....

You have to accept it for what it is... it is a $300 rifle.  Comparing it's lock to a  $100. L&R, Siler, Chambers Siler, or any other lock is not a just comparison... Like comparing a small  garden tractor to a 4000 Ford for plowing 100 acres...  If the rifle had a lock that was as good as a Chambers, barrel as good as Getz, trigger good as Timney, it would be a $900 rifle instead of a $300 rifle.

IMHO, It is a  $ 300.  rifle & it is what it is....   I still think it is the Best Buy for the Money in a low priced mass produced rifle.

Also, if you take care of it & sell it later, you will have much less loss of $ compared to the T/C, Pedersoli, etc. from what I have seen on the used market & a used Lyman Flintlock will sell imediately if it is priced reasonably & taken care of.

[jeager106]

Nothing wrong with the GPR.
I had a .54 till birddog6 ruined me by selling me two rifles he built.
Now I have 3 custom flinters, two by bd6.
I gave my GPR to an e-buddy in South Africa after they deregulated muzzle loaders. Now you can buy them in S.A. but there were none to be had.
Seems those people have to license a .22 airgun.
We should count our blessings everyday!