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Offline persistentprogrammer

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Why use snares?
« on: January 07, 2005, 12:19:13 PM »
When I was a kid in Mich it wasn't legal to trap with snares. I see alot of pics on the web with snares being used. They obviously damage the fur, so aside from them being inexpensive, why would a trapper use them?

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2005, 01:25:50 PM »
Snares are just another tool for the trapper.Those in more northern climates ,use snares to take yotes and fox when footholds are hard to keep functioning.Also,most animals will enter a snare without hesitation.
 Snares, along with footholds and bodygrippers ,offer the trapper differant options for the animals and conditons under which he harvests them.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2005, 01:29:50 PM »
Damage caused by snares is gernerally minimal and at times nonexistant. When using a very positive lock for a neck catch and small diamiter cable the animal will generally expire befor any noticable damge is done. This can be further helped by adding things like choke springs. Cats will expire so fast that I have heard of finding them where they didn't even pull the snare loose from the support wire. The last coyote I snared did so little damge to the area that I was able to remake the set. A slight red ring was noticable on the pelt when I skinned him but nothing that would degrade the value of it. Once it was dry and combed out you could not tell the difference between it and one caught in a foothold. Now I am not saying that damage will not occur because it definedly can, but again it is not common with a lethal setup that works as it is suposed to.

I have had very little experiance with nonlethal snares that are required in some states as I have heard(restraining snares). I did make up a few with washer locks for coon one time. Again the damage was minimal. It was obvious by looking at the pelt that it had been snared but I was not docked by the buyer as I recived the same price for it as one I caught in a connibear.

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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2005, 11:43:18 AM »
I caught a lot of coyotes and beaver in snares when I was young, way before I ever caught either one in a foothold or a beaver in a big conibear. I never learned how to swim, I never had much more than a few bucks to spend on equipment, and I didn't have the strength or skill knowledge to safely set or work with the bigger traps for these animals...but not be denied I read about snaring beaver on the banks at castor mound sets, crossovers on dams, slides and trails, etc. and with a lot of trial and error I ended up catching a lot of huge beaver this way. I never had more than a buck or so in each snare, and I saved any length that wasn't too badly kinked up for another snare or just extension lengths. I always saved my locks (still do) or made my own from bent washers. I had an older uncle who showed me how to snare coyotes, make deerproof sets with snares (duck unders, etc.) and I finally was able to enjoy "big" game trapping without dangerously deep water, big strong and expensive traps, etc. I also learned to do both for many a year without ever toting bait or lure. I used peeled sticks in back of "blank" mud pies for beaver...just learned to make them at prominent areas or used slides and trails. For coyotes I walked a long distance at times, passing by many a good traditional set location opting for just the right spot to squeeze things down and connect on travelers. I learned about loop size and distance from ground for specific critters. I experimented a lot with combinations to get a better catch (neck, body, etc.). It was a cool way to learn to trap for a small-statured kid like myself. I even had a plastic sled I used to put beaver on and to drag them out of the timber with and across the fields. For coyotes, I lashed all four feet together with a shoestring and slung them over my shoulder like a pack.
Another bright note for snares is that they are much lighter in comparison to a bundle of steel footholds or big conibears. No way I could have carried a dozen big #330s or #4s (let alone afford that many) for beaver, or a bunch of nice coyote-sized footholds plus hammers, trowels, bait, lure, etc. But a dozen snares fit nicely into a book-sized backpack along with my wire and pliers. I had a folding saw also for cutting branches, too.
When someone would swipe a snare from me on location (and this is true even today) I'm not set back much economically as I am on a decent foothold or conibear, either. Snares are a 1-time catch tool most of the time, but if I have any sense of the safety of my equipment from "Johnny Sneakums" then I won't even hesitate to switch to snares only in that area.
The weather factor mentioned earlier is a huge plus in the freeze-thaw and snowy situations around here, too. And, unless you really snag an animal and somehow injur it or cause it to struggle, any "miss" I've ever had was merely a knocked down snare that I simply reset and generally connect a short time later. I haven't found a lot of snare-shy critters yet. Snares have been a great way to get the trap or set-shy ones, though.
Jim-NE

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 09:32:25 AM »
Jim-NE...very good post. I just started using a few snares for coyotes here in Wisconsin. I set  6 of them about 10 days ago..no luck. (I did snare the neighbors black lab...he was ok) I have been baiting with scrap meats of sorts...not working, although the baits are usually gone the next day. Crows and other small critters are taking my baits..I guess.  Can you suggest a good lure/bait to use for coyotes?  Thanks....

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 10:03:10 AM »
I carry several good coyote lures and baits.But you will be much better off setting your snares in the coyotes trails.
 Our recent snowfalls,should help.
 Tom
If you need trapping supplies---call ,E-mail , or PM me . Home of Tom Olson's Mound Master Beaver Lures  ,Blackies Blend--lures and baits.Snare supplies,Dye ,dip,wax,Large assortment of gloves and Choppers-at very good prices.Hardware,snares,cable restraints and more!Give me a call(651) 436-2539
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 10:28:40 AM »
Another reason is that under the terms of the International Trade Agreement the Euros declared foothole traps inhumain and forced the USA and Canada to develop humain trapping BMP's.  Snares were evaluated as an alternative to footholds and are now an approved BMP!