Author Topic: 450 marlin (Read 363 times)

TrapperZach · « **on:** February 03, 2005, 02:12:24 AM »

what is this caliber how big is it and why is the handi barel so cheap. just wonderin.

mitchell · « **Reply #1 on:** February 03, 2005, 03:13:55 AM »

the cal is .458 just like the 45-70 . the barrel is 22" and really not heavy enough if you ask me that thing kick too much (thats why i sold mine) . its probably so cheap because they don't sell too many. if you get one you'll want to reload, the shells are not cheap ($28 a box). i liked the i had but it just kicked too hard to just shoot for fun

bajabill · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2005, 05:34:35 AM »

It is supposed to be a 45/70 twin. Marlin put the belt on it so a 450 could not be put into a 45/70 chamber. This took away the possibility of putting the bullet into an older rifle. This allows the factory loadings to all be loaded to the higher pressure limits that are set for the new chambering. The thought is that with a full capability new 45/70 rifle, such as the ruger #1, you could load the 45/70 equally with a 450.

I think the lack of demand for this chambering may also be a nod to the 45/70 being a nostalgic cartridge. While there is no nostalgia with a new chambering and it must make its way in the market on functionality only. I know that I just got a 45/70 because of nostalgia, not functional need.

glock29 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2005, 08:43:42 AM »

The 45-70 due to larger case capacity can be handloaded to higher velocity with the same bullet and pressure level of the 450 Marlin.
Get a 45-70 barrel & handload your ammo to the max.
Max loads for a 450 Marlin give roughly 3400 ft/lb muzzle energy.
Max loads with the 45-70 with the same 350 grain bullet at roughly 50,000 c.u.p. are around 4200 ft/lb of muzzle energy.

Recoil with these level loads in a Handi-rifle is nothing short of BRUTAL !