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What is everyones thoughts on the 22-250 rem. for deer?
« on: January 13, 2005, 06:02:28 AM »
I was just wanting to see what everyone thought about the 22-250 being used for deer hunting. I use one (and love it) but wanted to know what everyone else thought?
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2005, 07:35:39 AM »
I hunted with mine last year and shot 3 deer.  All were one shot kills.

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2005, 01:08:24 PM »
I guess in the right hands, they can kill deer. My friend killed a 250 lb 9 point with a .222 using 50 grain bullets. But honestly...I use a .243 and wouldn't use anything less without feeling underpowered. I'd like to own a larger caliber one day (.270, .30-06, .308, w/e). But I'll reinstate my theory; if you're a good shooter, you'll kill deer.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2005, 05:00:24 PM »
Ya need a bigger gun!
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2005, 03:15:43 AM »
I knew somebody was gunna say that. And that's why I ask, but I want to know why you think I need a bigger gun.

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Not trying to start a argument, just want to know everyone's thoughts
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2005, 03:54:41 AM »
It's not that a .22-250 can't take a deer, it's where you have the shot, and what you may have to shoot through to get to it.  A .22-250 is more of a Varmint load than a deer load.  

An M-16 uses the .223 and is known to tumble inside a body, which makes it a good load in combat.

A chest shot on a deer with a .22-250 would not be advisable, since the bullet may deflect if it hit a rib or disintegrate all together on a shoulder hit.  It wouldn't be out of the question for the bullet to enter the chest and exit from the back end or anywhere, without hitting any vital organs.  You really should have a little more weight to produce more penetration and hydro-shock on a bigger animal.  Besides, if you have to shoot through any kind of brush or bushes, deflection is another concern with the lighter calibers.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2005, 10:06:38 AM »
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It's not that a .22-250 can't take a deer, it's where you have the shot, and what you may have to shoot through to get to it.  A .22-250 is more of a Varmint load than a deer load.  

An M-16 uses the .223 and is known to tumble inside a body, which makes it a good load in combat.

A chest shot on a deer with a .22-250 would not be advisable, since the bullet may deflect if it hit a rib or disintegrate all together on a shoulder hit.  It wouldn't be out of the question for the bullet to enter the chest and exit from the back end or anywhere, without hitting any vital organs.  You really should have a little more weight to produce more penetration and hydro-shock on a bigger animal.  Besides, if you have to shoot through any kind of brush or bushes, deflection is another concern with the lighter calibers.


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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2005, 04:29:47 PM »
I had a friend in SC who used a 22-250 for deer.  It was his only rifle.  He had a great piece of land to hunt and he saw a lot of deer.  Every Monday at work he would come in and tell me about the great big deer he shot, trailed and couldn't find.  I got on to him so bad he quit talking to me about it.  IMHO, any 22 is too small to take on a deer hunt.  If you are just out in the woods and a deer attacks you, use what you brung!
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2005, 09:24:41 PM »
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I had a friend in SC who used a 22-250 for deer.  It was his only rifle.  He had a great piece of land to hunt and he saw a lot of deer.  Every Monday at work he would come in and tell me about the great big deer he shot, trailed and couldn't find.  I got on to him so bad he quit talking to me about it.  IMHO, any 22 is too small to take on a deer hunt.  If you are just out in the woods and a deer attacks you, use what you brung!


I would have to say that anybody who shoots more than one deer with a light caliber, tracks them and can't find them, then continues to use the same caliber is not only a p*ss poor hunter but qualifies for animal abuse.  

Deep down inside such a person has no respect for anything and probably deserves to be taken behind the shed for a good whoopin, just for general principles.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2005, 10:40:18 PM »
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I had a friend in SC who used a 22-250 for deer.  It was his only rifle.  He had a great piece of land to hunt and he saw a lot of deer.  Every Monday at work he would come in and tell me about the great big deer he shot, trailed and couldn't find.  I got on to him so bad he quit talking to me about it.  IMHO, any 22 is too small to take on a deer hunt.  If you are just out in the woods and a deer attacks you, use what you brung!


I understand your reasoning, and you have a right to your reasoning.......but disagree with it. It might be a .22 bullet but if you have the right bullet and hit a deer right behind the shoulder that "little" .22 is going so fast it will nock a deer off it's feet.
Your buddy probaly was shotting a varmint bullet witch almost completely dissinagrates on impact. They make a bullet that holds up when it hits and most times will alow you to get complete pass throughs. I think you just had bad a experience with someone using the wrong shell.

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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2005, 12:26:33 AM »
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I had a friend in SC who used a 22-250 for deer.  It was his only rifle.  He had a great piece of land to hunt and he saw a lot of deer.  Every Monday at work he would come in and tell me about the great big deer he shot, trailed and couldn't find.  I got on to him so bad he quit talking to me about it.  IMHO, any 22 is too small to take on a deer hunt.  If you are just out in the woods and a deer attacks you, use what you brung!


I understand your reasoning, and you have a right to your reasoning.......but disagree with it. It might be a .22 bullet but if you have the right bullet and hit a deer right behind the shoulder that "little" .22 is going so fast it will nock a deer off it's feet.
Your buddy probaly was shotting a varmint bullet witch almost completely dissinagrates on impact. They make a bullet that holds up when it hits and most times will alow you to get complete pass throughs. I think you just had bad a experience with someone using the wrong shell.


Your understanding of calibers, ballistics, bullet performance and hunting
integrity is very skewed.  Which may be understandable since it appears you have no adult supervision when it comes to firearms.   You may be better off seeking out an experienced person before you come up with more bad habits and ideas.  

Back when I learned, I was not only responsible for every bullet but accountable for each round.  

It is pretty obvious to me that you need more practical experience from an experienced adult.   Using a firearm is not a computer game.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2005, 01:11:33 AM »
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I had a friend in SC who used a 22-250 for deer.  It was his only rifle.  He had a great piece of land to hunt and he saw a lot of deer.  Every Monday at work he would come in and tell me about the great big deer he shot, trailed and couldn't find.  I got on to him so bad he quit talking to me about it.  IMHO, any 22 is too small to take on a deer hunt.  If you are just out in the woods and a deer attacks you, use what you brung!


I understand your reasoning, and you have a right to your reasoning.......but disagree with it. It might be a .22 bullet but if you have the right bullet and hit a deer right behind the shoulder that "little" .22 is going so fast it will nock a deer off it's feet.
Your buddy probaly was shotting a varmint bullet witch almost completely dissinagrates on impact. They make a bullet that holds up when it hits and most times will alow you to get complete pass throughs. I think you just had bad a experience with someone using the wrong shell.


Your understanding of calibers, ballistics, bullet performance and hunting
integrity is very skewed.  Which may be understandable since it appears you have no adult supervision when it comes to firearms.   You may be better off seeking out an experienced person before you come up with more bad habits and ideas.  

Back when I learned, I was not only responsible for every bullet but accountable for each round.  

It is pretty obvious to me that you need more practical experience from an experienced adult.   Using a firearm is not a computer game.


I most always have respect for everyone on this post. But you are ready crossed the line. WHAT DO YOU THINK GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO TELL ME I HAVE NO ADULT SUPERVISION WHEN IT COMES TO FIREARMS. I HAVE BEEN SHOOTING AND HUNTING WITH MY DAD(WITCH WAS TAUGHT BY HIS DAD AT THE SAME AGE) CENCE I WAS 4. AND HAVE BEEN TAUGHT EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT SAFETY AND RESPONSIBILITY. SO DON'T GIVE ME ANY OF YOUR BULL ABOUT PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT I NEED MORE EXPERIENCE ANYWAYS, CAUSE I HUNT WITH A 22-250. IF THATS THE CASE YOU STAND UP AND TELL ALL THE YOUTH HUNTERS PARENTS IN TX THE SAME THING. WHAT DO YOU THINK ALL THE LITTLE KIDS OUT THERE USE, 22-250'S AND .223. AND MOST USE THE .223 WITCH HAS A BULLET THAT IS  JUST A LITTLE BIGER THAN A .22 BULLET AND DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH POWDER BEHIND IT AS THE 22-250 DOES. THAT MEANS THE 22-250 HITS HARDER AND KILL BETTER. AND TO THINK THERE PARENTS NOT EXPERIENCE HUNTERS. YEH RIGHT. :-D
NOT EXPERIENCED HUNTER...COME ON THATS CRAZY....FOR EXAMPLE, BILL JORDAN LET HIS SON SHOOT A NICE 8 OR 9 POINT BUCK WITH A .223, AND HAS THE MONEY TO GET HIM ANY GUN AND ANY CAILBER HE WANTED, AND IT DROPPED RIGHT IN IT'S TRACKS.

Sorry about the capitol writing. CAPS. was on and I didn't realize it. Doesn't mean anything.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2005, 01:41:16 AM »
Uhh...ok...I wanna kno sumtin. How can a 50 or 60 grain HIT harder than a 140 grain .270? Come on. Get real. That 60 grain is a sizzler and it will rip up muscle sumtin teribble making for a kill at fairly close range (20-30 yds). After that, bullet starts to loose it's sizzle and it will just, not literally, but almost just bounce off. Like someone else said, forget about chest shots. At that range, the bullet will hit a rib and get deflected. That's what I mean.

Deerslayer, you're losing an ongoing battle here in case you didn't notice. Sorry to be blunt, but it's true. The smaller calibers aren't that well trusted with killing deer. My best friend used to use a .222 for deer and killed I think it was 5 or 6 then he got a .270. Does he take out the .222 anymore? No. The 130, 140, 150 grain bullets even 100 grain bullets like in my .243 will hit harder than a .22-250 or a .223 or w/e 50, 55, or 60 grain bullet. There isn't any denying that. If I were you, save up your money and get at least a .243. You won't regret it, I promise.  :D
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2005, 02:29:19 AM »
It's too light. You need at least a 243. Buy another rifle.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2005, 04:20:15 AM »
Upon request and my jurisdiction, this topic is now locked due to the heated arguments. No more folks.
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