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Offline DelGue

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« on: January 27, 2005, 06:16:24 AM »
I've been thinking about an "African B'wana Shoot," here in the USofA.

The Cowboy Action Shooters (CAS) have their "End of Trail," sponsered by the "Single Action Shooters Society," (S.A.S.S.).  They dress/shoot with 'time period' (1800s) clothing/guns and they have to have an alias (sort of like here at GB's).  They meet monthly and it's really a fun time.

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A "B'wana African Shooting Society" (B.A.S.S) or whatever we would call it,  it would have the potentially safari bound B'wana already prepared and he/she would know his/her guns well by the time they are on safari.  Even if you weren't going to Africa, it just plain fun to shoot the Big Bores, and to share the fellowship/experiences of past safaris.

Exactly how an "Africa B'wana Shoot" would look or what kind of shooting course would be needed is open for suggestion/discussion (minimum calibers, number of shots, etc).  I know that PHs have to go through a qualification course.  To look at their requirements maybe a good place to start.    

What do you think?  Any ideas?  Interested?
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2005, 11:23:16 AM »
If you can use range officers as gun bearers, that would make it authentic, and you could do away with gun carts, too!

As the founder, your alias would be Dr. Livingstone, I presume? :-D

Seriously, as expensive as cowboy shooting can be, this could put it to shame if the rules required certain types of traditional rifles.  There could be no uniformity to competition unless it was strictly big bore, as in over 40 caliber.  Then, you'd have to divide into classes like double shooters and bolt guns, perhaps further divided into scoped guns.  No quick action of falling plates to keep the crowds happy, either, as most of the guns used would be punching holes and crumpling steel, not to mention ricochet dangers that cowboy shooters with soft lead at low velocity don't have to contend with.

Paper targets would be harder to score for time, there would be no instant feedback for the shooters and spectators, so I can't see that catching on, either.

I'm not saying don't do it, but there are a lot of wrinkles to iron out.  The best way to iron them out would be to simply find a few local friends that have the same interest, and start working out how you want to do it.  That's how cowboy action started, just some bored shooters using their cowboy guns for IPSC or some such sport.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2005, 01:14:45 PM »
Leverfan

Good points -- It could be shot with lead bullets close-in and the metal plates for that instant/positive reenforcement and full-house loads for further out...  Of couse that presumes that everyone is a reloader.   Even reduced loads with lead bullets creates real problems with ricochets.  Hummmm?

Does anyone know the course that PHs go through in Africa to get certified?  Maybe parts of it could be used?

Thanks Leverfan... good insite.

A.K.A.  Dr. Livingston  (I kind of like that)
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2005, 05:30:43 AM »
This sport would be of the most value to hunters if they used the same ammo that they'd use on a hunt.  That would be very expensive, aside from the target damage.  Copper plated, steel-jacketed slugs aren't the sort of thing you want to run through your expensive safari rifle in the high volumes of competition, either.  

I have seen a pistol hunters' game in which you walk through a course of mixed brush and cover, trying to spot animal shaped targets at various, unknown ranges.  Most ranges can't support that type of thing, but that's what would work the best.  Perhaps, instead of a B'wana Shoot, it could be an all-around hunting simulation course.  That would allow folks to compete in Scoped Rifle, Open Sight Rifle, Open Sight Double (for the rich folks), Scoped Single Shot Pistol, etc.

This simply doesn't work as a spectator sport, do to the nature of the course, so you lose some of the family and friends aspects of cowboy action.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2005, 02:56:56 PM »
One solution to leverfan's problems here would be breakable targets. Things like clay birds, flower pots, 12"x 12" tiles, ect. Full power loads would not be a problem, and softpoint bullets are not that expensive. I think anything legal and capable of taking an elephant, say .375 H&H on up could be allowed. Simulating a charging animal might be a challange. Maybe roll a junk car downhill? :)
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 01:25:45 AM »
Hi Del,

Your post has given me an idea which we are about to put into practice overnight, watch this space!

Your thoughts "exactly how an "Africa B'wana Shoot" would look or what kind of shooting course would be needed is open for suggestion/discussion......... I know that PHs have to go through a qualification course........maybe a good place to start" got me thinking and I've put together a shoot based on the PH final exam.

I will post details here with a link to instruction and target downloads... let's see where this goes...maybe a start to great things.

Regards