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Offline Fred M

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« on: January 22, 2005, 06:20:18 AM »
Can this new .500 S&W compete with the 45-70 in a long barreled rifle, that is trajectory and down range energy. I don't have any ballistic data to compare. But I have a factory mock up cartridge to look at.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2005, 06:26:53 AM »
I don't know either but am interested in trying one out. I asked this question hare a while back. The general opinion was that the 45-70 has more potential than the 500. I would like to see some actual ballistic comparison at longer ranges.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2005, 06:39:37 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2005, 07:53:33 AM »
Thanks Quick.
I never followed that thread. No advantage in a rifle from what I can see.

The 405 for a hunting gun rebored from 38-55 is still near the top for this country's woods hunting.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2005, 12:10:19 PM »
Fred,
I'm thinking that a better question is can it compete in a short rifle barrel. From what I've seen, the standard revolver barrel length for the .500 S+W is 8+". I'm wondering what it would do from a 16.25" carbine barrel, especially with some slower burning powders. As a heavy brush gun, it could be tough to beat. What's your take on it?
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2005, 12:57:43 PM »
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Oh yes, that would make quite a bush gun. If we were allowed to hunt with hand guns in Canada I have one of those with a 10" barrel. I don't think there is yery much in the woods in this country that would stand up to that gun. My friend has a 45-70 six shooter and that is quite a handfull.

Perhaps a little leaver or automatic will soon be available in Ruger or Marlin ?????
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 02:09:52 PM »
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Oh yes, that would make quite a bush gun.

Perhaps a little leaver or automatic will soon be available in Ruger or Marlin ?????


Fred,
I was thinking more in the line of a cut down Handi barrel. They sure are easy to cut and recrown. After looking at load data for the .500 S+W revolver, adding a meager 20 FPS per inch of barrel increase, your looking at a .500, 275 gr. bullet doing 2300 FPS with a six inch point blank range beyond 200 yards. Even the larger bullets, the 440 CPB-LGC is the largest my Hodgdon manual lists, it would reach over 1800 FPS with a six inch point blank range beyond 150 yards. I wish I had load data for the bigger cast bullets now available. I'll have to do some more searching.

Don
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2005, 03:50:44 AM »
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Perhaps a little leaver or automatic will soon be available in Ruger or Marlin ?????


They already make an AR15 upper for the .500 S&W  :blaster:   :roll:
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