If you handload, you will have trouble doing better than a 7-30 for deer without going to a wildcat cartridge. Load it up with spirepoints you are good for deer out to 200 with the right load. Recoil is low and it is just fun to shoot. You should still be able to get 35 rem if you look around some (I'd try Ed's), but I would still recommend the good old 7-30.